Latest Reviews
TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE: Master P
11-11-2009, 7:00 AM | 136

TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE: Crooked I
11-04-2009, 3:00 PM | 216







Pics From The American Music Awards
10 hours, 22 minutes ago | 43









BET's The Cypher Pt. 3: Who Killed It? 
Published Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:21 PM
Facebook ADD TO GOOGLE
By Odeisel

Back in the day, a cipher was a generally random gathering of cats who let the spirit take them and spontaneously busted out in rhyme.  A cipher could be spit a capella, to a beat box, or, if you were lucky, you had an instrumental in your boom box.

 

It was generally good natured and devoid of all the battle hostility.  One person would build off the person before them and it would generally be off the top. Sorry folks, no "styling on you" moments or rap eye jammies.

 

As Hip-Hop moved away from the concrete jungles of New York to less pedestrian areas, the cipher became less common, as you can't really have one in your car, we can't hear you in the club, and at barbeques, you're too busy eating or playing dominoes.

 

BET recently breathed some life back into the cipher as part of the promotion for their recent Awards show. They had groups of rappers showing their emcee sides in a little homage to the way things used to be.  For this exercise, we'll take a look at "Cypher # 3."

 

Hosted by the legendary DJ Premiere, this clip features four emcees getting down over some good old fashioned boom bap. Despite the fact that none of these verses are off the head, and ignoring the conspicuous fact that all of the artists in this particular clip are *gasp* Def Jam artists (shout to Shakir), as a whole they did a bangup job.  However, this is Hip-Hop so you know there's a competitive element to everything.  So I ask the question: Who Killed Cypher # 3 the most?

 

 

First up, WE DA BESSSSSSST's first son Ace Hood.  Spitting the most clearly written verse of the four, he doesn't do anything to play himself out.  His delivery is smooth, and he sounds polished.  He's clearly the baby of this bunch but there's nothing here to be ashamed of.  Solid

 

Contender number two, Dipset Representer, Skull Gang General Juelz Santana. Without the generally noisy production of his cohorts to hide behind, Juelz abandons the kiddie Cam style and actually does some Mc'ing on this.  Couple nice lines, delivery started a lil off beat but he found his rhythm and finished strong. For a while it actually sounded like he was trying to go off the dome.  Probably by design but he did his thing.  Not the best but a good showing.

 

Next up, and in my opinion the title taker of this joint, Loso a.k.a F-a-b-o-l-o-u-s.  He showed the most confidence, the most presence, and the second most energy behind Juelz.  His punchlines were witty and well-timed and he just seemed in control the whole time like it was nothing. I always thought his output was generally beneath his actual talent level, but to me he's clearly the best on this joint. Bodybags.

 

Last but not least we have the collabo killer Jadakiss of death (one of the most underrated names ever).  I have to say, I was underwhelmed by Kiss' performance on this.  Maybe he's going more against his own performance history, but there are no face frowning moments or no "OOOHH" moments like "haters shaking like Ali holding the torch." Just run of the mill Jada. There's no energy or hunger or excitement. It feels like he mailed it in.  It's not a wack verse by any means but I feel he could roll out of bed and spit that any day.  Fab bodied him on this.

 

There you have it, one guy's opinion, but how do you guys fell about it? Peep the  poll. Hit me up, but before I'm done I got a final bit of fun it's the mighty Mos Def  in a cipher of one, that's mos and not least sounding clearly like a beast and with that alley cats I'm a have to say peace.  Cypher 4 here I come.

 

 

**No rappers were hurt in the production of this article.**

 


Poll Answers

Comments

 

Howard McFly said:

they all handled they bizz but im goin wit kiss wit fab bein right there
October 25, 2008 11:30 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Everybody ripped it first of all! but here is my list from the top to the bottom verses

Fabolous
Jadakiss
Santana
Ace Hood

All of them did there thing though.
October 25, 2008 11:45 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

It was between Juelz Santana & Fab, with Jada coming in CLOSE 3rd.
October 25, 2008 11:54 PM
 

prob_limbs said:

shit was ill,i ain't braille ace hood at all tho,juelz killed that yell

www.myspace.com/panhandoelrcorp
October 25, 2008 11:58 PM
 

odeisel said:

Yo i was kinda impressed with Ace Hood.  He was pretty good
October 25, 2008 11:58 PM
 

chocolaterain said:

Cory Gunzzzz!!! Kiss bodied it, Fab ate that

NY ...we need u back in the game!!!!!
October 26, 2008 12:02 AM
 

Cabana da Don said:

I dunno man jadakiss is my fav artist but JUELZ stood out.It's a damn shame he always stands out no matter what/
October 26, 2008 12:03 AM
 

chitownboyz said:

i will say juelz,fab and kiss
October 26, 2008 12:07 AM
 

poe said:

Kiss ethered it & so did Fab.


http://www.myspace.com/musiqjunkyproductions
October 26, 2008 12:40 AM
 

Tryons Terror said:

Man this is tough.. ima go with jada because thats my nigg right there but really all of those NY dudes bodied that. i think that was a win for NY regardless of who was better!!!!
October 26, 2008 12:56 AM
 

Kappagem said:

I don't even like voting on this particular cypher, namely because I would like a cypher to at least incorporate SOME freestyle to it.  Like, remember when cats, even if it was some sh*t they had written last week, would incorporate something that they DIDN'T write with it.  One line written, another one thought up right there....I dunno...

If I HAD to vote...

then I would have to put Loso, Kiss, and Juelz on a an equal level.  I really thought Juelz held his own.

I thought Ace was the weakest, but that is possibly biased, since he was the newest out of them.  But he was also the easiest to spot how much was written...like, he had that sh*t memorized BIG time...

Yeah...I liked Juelz energy MAJORLY though...he just came off strong.  Jada was his normal laid back self, and that line Loso threw out there about his swag being left on the corner...FLAWLESS...

Now, let's keep it 100...

NOBODY wants to go at Kiss or Fabo in this here group head to head.  Jada or Fabo going in a REAL cypher...that would be MURDER...top of the head...Definitely Fabo and Kiss...
October 26, 2008 1:09 AM
 

KillaRell said:

woooo!  nice. sh*t like this gets me excited.  Please, can we please put the focus back on talent.

My list is

Fab
Santana
Kiss
Ace

everyone got busy.
October 26, 2008 1:11 AM
 

Kappagem said:

Here we go...

NOW THIS IS A CYPHER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlu-VHK4XQ

Go 3:13 in...

J & D did they thing...

Even the bodyguard did his dayum thing...

Came in with that Scarface flow:)
October 26, 2008 1:26 AM
 

MAINE MAN said:

Co-sign...Kappagem...nuff said
October 26, 2008 1:28 AM
 

Hot Rod! said:

odeisel said:
Yo i was kinda impressed with Ace Hood.  He was pretty good
---------------------------------------------------------

I couldn't agree with you more., but Fab blacked out on this one.

"the rock's gots more karats than rabbit's shit"

WHAT?! That's bananas!!! Is it me, or has Fab gotten better with time? That one belongs to Fab.
October 26, 2008 1:28 AM
 

Old Head said:

Santana and Fab were neck and neck.  Kiss was nice, Ace Hood did ok too not bad.  Santana's verse had more punchlines.
October 26, 2008 1:42 AM
 

ejlpceo said:

October 26, 2008 1:44 AM
 

King_Phe-Nix said:

one quarter of a bar FAB said...

"im in yo ass b whos the next raz b"

im done......

KING HAS SPOKEN....
October 26, 2008 1:44 AM
 

Illmatic T said:

my vote goes to..drummroll please....fab an jada
October 26, 2008 2:07 AM
 

frostyicy said:

Fab killed it!!!!
October 26, 2008 2:36 AM
 

canarydon said:

Fab...Jada...Ace..Juelz...

Gunz sounded so stupid to me with that shit

...don
October 26, 2008 2:42 AM
 

frostyicy said:

Kappagem said:
Here we go...

NOW THIS IS A CYPHER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlu-VHK4XQ

Go 3:13 in...

J & D did they thing...

Even the bodyguard did his dayum thing...

Came in with that Scarface flow:)

-------------------------------------------------------

You do know that Jay wasn't freestylin right??? LOL he has you fooled. Jay is my favorite rapper ever with that being said it isn't a freestyle.

The songs name is This Life Forever don't believe me check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWKnjmCBlyU&feature=related

go to like 1:23 and its the exact same verse.

Not sure if DMX was freestyling or not I'm pretty sure that the bodyguard's rhymes were written.
October 26, 2008 2:44 AM
 

ZHOOV-BOY said:

FAB
SANTANA
ACE HOOD
KISS (because i expected more from kiss)
October 26, 2008 2:48 AM
 

DC-King said:

Kiss got this one wit Fab in a CLOSE 2nd...
@HOTROD
Fab ain't gettin better wit time, he BEEN nice...one of the most underrated period!
October 26, 2008 3:23 AM
 

DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

Tommy K. said:
Everybody ripped it first of all! but here is my list from the top to the bottom verses

Fabolous
Jadakiss
Santana
Ace Hood
==================================================
LOL THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT, LOSO KILLED, MURKED, 187, ONE'D, BODIED, DROPPED, OFFED THAT SHIT.JADA KILLED IT WITHOUT EVEN TRYING.SANTANA CAME WIT IT AND ACE HOOD DID COOL.
October 26, 2008 3:29 AM
 

Die2Live said:

Fab=Most Entertaining
Jada=Most Fluid
Ace Hood and Hurricane Cris=Most Memorized
Juelz=After 6 Bars Most Garbage!!!!!!!!!!!
Bun B=Mostly Freestyled
Q-tip=Most respect
.......Others n'em=Mostly bored........
Cory Gunz=made me smile the MOST.....PETER GUNZ you raised a good son!!!
October 26, 2008 3:37 AM
 

KoldKrush420 said:

man everybody on that bitch was so so.
October 26, 2008 3:44 AM
 

Tommy K. said:

I thought everyone in the first cypher (Bun Cris n them) came off the top. Maybe Q-Tip did to, I don't remember.
October 26, 2008 3:49 AM
 

Die2Live said:

I gave Juelz anotha shot and I don't hear it.
October 26, 2008 3:51 AM
 

A.T.L-AVATION said:

yall wilding man aint none of dat shyt ace babbling about understandable and im from atl, but dem otha 3, wow dey all went toe 2 toe, i'll go wit fab cuz he had da newest/freshest lines man he  actually said some shyt i aint heard den my boy jada so...

fab,jada,juelz,den ace
October 26, 2008 3:52 AM
 

DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

O YEAH

"WORD PLAY KING I'M NOT THE ONE TO SCRABBLE WIT"

I WAS DONE AFTER THAT LOL.

AND DID YALL SEE HOW LUDA OUT SHINED T.I LIKE A MOTHAFUCKA ON THE AWARDS? I BE WANTING TO FIGHT SOMEBODY WHEN THEY TRY TO PUT T.I IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS A LIVING LEGEND LIKE LUDA. LUDA IS A PURE M.C AND T.I IS JUST A GOOD M.C.
October 26, 2008 3:57 AM
 

DeadPresidentsRD said:

tie between Jadakiss and Juelz for 1st
then Fab then Ace Hood in dead last
October 26, 2008 4:02 AM
 

SO_SINISTA said:

Gotta give it to Jada... myspace.com/y2kdg                                                  
October 26, 2008 4:25 AM
 

J-Boogie The Cancer said:

KISS got em. Hood was solid, i wish he would do more shit like that than that RIDE bullshit.
October 26, 2008 4:38 AM
 

Wordizbond said:

there u go:
jada
fab
ace
juelz (but it did look like he was spittin off the dome)
October 26, 2008 5:05 AM
 

Wordizbond said:

plus i agree with j-boogie, i'd want ace hood doing more of this kinda real hiphop things rather than regular mainstream bling bling ish.
October 26, 2008 5:07 AM
 

ZHOOV-BOY said:

yo kiss verse was just ok
he was nothing special on this track
do you niggaz listen or just skim through
October 26, 2008 5:16 AM
 

hiphop111 said:

gota go wid kiss they all killed it but kiss makes it look so easy
October 26, 2008 7:43 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

Kiss and Fab tied, like the twin towers.

Juelz was tower 7 in this jawn.  smaller but recognizable.

Ace Hood, was like a project building.  tall but just not built the same.  not as much precedent

good cipher
October 26, 2008 8:12 AM
 

alski said:

FAB = HOT
JADA = ON POINT
JUELZ - AIGHT
ACE HOOD = STRAIGHT TRASH
October 26, 2008 8:22 AM
 

official216 said:

Jada- Classic fire!!!! 9.9/10
Fab- Classic 9.4/10
Juellez- Fire 9.0/10
Ace Hood- He showed up in a room of lions 7.5/10
October 26, 2008 9:47 AM
 

AJRICH said:

CORY WAS THE BEST
October 26, 2008 10:00 AM
 

chiLL2082 said:

That Cypher.......murdered but Ace HooD...AWWWWWWW!!they should have put a more respected artist wit dem cats, who gon honestly buy his album.
"Up and coming or a hasB, Im in ya ass B, whos the next Raz B" FaBBBBBBBB
October 26, 2008 10:08 AM
 

NO504 said:

I like the ace hood dude but Fab went in on this 1
October 26, 2008 11:08 AM
 

Redd-i said:

1. Juelz- Most Charismatic,  He explained all in the first verse, no one I fear but God and my shadow.  I like how he eye balls the camera like he's serious wit it.  That's how you control your audience first of all..then he explain how niggas bite the swagg but he does it with word play like you can by all the gear you want but that don't make you a G so just like you go in the store and copp the first thing a salesman tells you is hot you can do the same thing and watch a real nigga swagg it out and he still got bars.  I respect that and he explained enough so whatever else another critic gotta say what he spit was recorded so ya'll can play it back like espn.  Still He not fuckin wit Cam.  Ya'll crazy if you think just cause a person ain't in the public eye that they just lost it all.  It takes alot of grind behind the scenes and then when you finally get that look you get new fans and new haters.  I see through the b.s. and still ride wit Cam.  "Sooner or later you gonna have to face it" the nigga Juelz got bars can't speak on hiw loyalty cause I don't know the situation fully.  I just know you don't ditch ya manz for your enemy like your enemy has your best interest at heart.

2.  Fab- definately came back to back to back wit punches one after another. That's why I fucks wit him cause he embodies what a true lyricist does and that strive to fill every bar with substance. plus he somehow gets that commercial feel to feed  the programable fans.  I'm bout to make a "why lie I NEED A DEAL" sign for myself.  that's real talk.  But nah I'm too smart for that.  I see homeless niggas wit signs bggin all day and I think for all the energy you put it making them sings standing in the cold begging you could be workin on another hustle.  So believe I get mine on some digital logics type shit.  No ya'll don't know what that is so g'head and keep doing your internet geek thing.  I see your asses in Heaven and then we'll discuss who really did they thing until then, you don't come up on my radar, beat it.  Fab hit it on the nose when he blast all the non rapper egg heads that just wake and think they can do this shit for a buck, like that Sarah chick.  She see it's hot and want to be apart of it but since she has no skills she makes a joke of it to hide her envy and really try on the shoes of a rapper with out feeling a bit stupa for it.

3.  Jada- is still that dude.  I can see he just bout his money and not feeling the whole groupie thing right now he just want to get it and go home.  So his flow shows that his interest level is low but since it's a check envolved he'll spit a lil something.  That's what it is man.  Just another example, no way can you see Jada trash because he breeze through a couple of appearances.  It's not like he gone be happy to be there when the whole award show is fixed to cater to the popcorn culture.  Then they wanna throw the niggas that really get busy in a lil circle and say okay see we're still hip(Dr Evil voice) see we got jada on here.  I see through the b.s. but hey if it ain't poppin for you then you might just need to try another hustle too.
I'm just gone leave it at that...
October 26, 2008 11:26 AM
 

YoungG757NGE said:

Fab Jada Juelz and that Japanese chick came off the hardest. Holla at ya nigga
October 26, 2008 11:27 AM
 

Sovietnam said:

When i seen that Jada was in it, i knew he was gonna bring it, but my vote gotta go to lil Corey Gunz
October 26, 2008 11:50 AM
 

Hypnotice7 said:

Fab and Juelz then Jada....dont know too much about Ace Hood but held it down respectably rhyming with some veterans
October 26, 2008 11:57 AM
 

LAanimal said:

if we are talking about the last cipher...
Jada's confidence and effortless deliverey put him in first...
Fab's scrabble-like wordplay had him a close second
Ace hood was third with a consistent rhyming flow
Juelz was the weak link, he started to get on point towards the end
October 26, 2008 12:08 PM
 

ahanti 7 said:

Juelz santana
Fabolous
Corey GunZ
Jada Kiss "This ain't a ryme its a control substance"
October 26, 2008 12:12 PM
 

DJ_SHONA said:

mos bodied em all

fab killed it tho. an i agree that jada was wack for what he's capable of.
October 26, 2008 12:13 PM
 

Mr.WickedJones said:

Are U nigga's high? yall jocking celebrity. Ace Hood faded them. he said " if u sick of new I'll feed the labels theraflu. (thats classic) that some RedMan type shit.
October 26, 2008 12:17 PM
 

mississippi said:

fab makes me wonder how can ppl call LoydBanks the PLK. they both cold but banks aint got him beat.
"bounty hunters that come find u after countin to a million"-i would have neva thought of no shit like that.  btw, that's from an old one.
October 26, 2008 1:01 PM
 

JPT7 said:

I thought it was close between kiss and loso,but bet should of cut ace hood from the cypher and replaced him with bun or cory gunz, not hatin on homie but his rhymes arent impressive,he just speaks fast and puts a hard delivery on it,as evident when he was going hard even on that ladies joint he did w/ trey songz
October 26, 2008 1:02 PM
 

mississippi said:

um in yo ass b
who da next ras b--daaaam
October 26, 2008 1:10 PM
 

baynig4sho said:

KISS BODIED THE CYPHER.
October 26, 2008 1:56 PM
 

bigzizzo#1 said:

that bodyguard that you guys are talking about in that backstage video is a rapper from chicago and a good friend of mine named hashim hakim. he used to be in a rap group here in chicago named soldierz at war, now he is a solo rapper and has released a couple of cd's. he is a very humble and respectful dude and a muslim.
October 26, 2008 2:21 PM
 

mr.201973 said:

this how i see it
jada
fab
ace
juelz
http://www.zshare.net/audio/501093412b30b77d/
October 26, 2008 2:40 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

Aint nobody mention Bun B???
October 26, 2008 3:06 PM
 

Da1 said:

Ace Hood was the wackest.

El killed it!!! He started out: theres only 2 men i fear when it comes to a battle GOD AND MY SHADOW!! lmao

Loso was right behind him, killing it with the WHOS THE NEXT RAZ B!! that was wrong, but hella funny.

and Kiss came with the you'll be the man of the house my pops told me. good line.

All 3 vets were hot, i cant choose.
October 26, 2008 3:12 PM
 

StunnersSquad said:

Wow! That Real Hip Hop, Back In The Days Biggie Love This Kind Of Stuff He Would Cypher All Day On The Block. Anyway In This One I Would Say Juelz Took It, Shout To All The Mc's They All Did Their Thing. Proooperly!
October 26, 2008 3:44 PM
 

MrCanibuss said:

My list goes as follows:

Fab
Ace Hood
Jada
Juelz

Let me explain why....
Fab
swag and punchlines were the strongest

Ace Hood
lyrics wasn't as strong, but made up in delivery

Jada
energy was low, he didn't really seem interested, tho i think he is one the most underrated and overlooked from NY

Juelz
lacked substance, deliver was a 6 out of 10....punchlines were a bit weak...But overall i think Juelz is nice...
October 26, 2008 4:07 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

JADA HES JUSS A SMOOTH CAT .2ND FAB GOT DA PUNCHLINES 3RD JUELZ EVEN THOUGH I DNT LIKE DEM SNITCH SET NIGGAZ HE WAS AIGHT..
October 26, 2008 4:39 PM
 

T-ROC said:

All i got to say is.......Cipher is good for hip-hop ALL ripped their OWN style.

I am not going to say who stood out because we NEED more of this in HIP-HOP. got me!
October 26, 2008 4:50 PM
 

kingcharles said:

my nigga Elz killed it Cabana da don was right that nigga always outshine everybody, even Wayne and thats my number one out of the lil niggas
October 26, 2008 4:58 PM
 

msprettydimples said:

Don't get it twisted, Jada definetly showed why he has the Kiss of Death. But young Cory Gunz showed that it's more than swag and punchlines to this, you have to have some lyrical content and he most definetly does.
Juelz seemed written to me and Fab does what he does best, S**t on niccas.
October 26, 2008 5:19 PM
 

MOSSHADYESCO said:

People are sleepin on Juelz verse he was easily the most impressive maybe because i havent heard him spit a hot verse since dedication 2
October 26, 2008 5:30 PM
 

big1on said:

Ace Hood !!!!!!!!!
October 26, 2008 5:33 PM
 

MOSSHADYESCO said:

 
YoungG757NGE said:Fab Jada Juelz and that Japanese chick came off the hardest. Holla at ya nigga



--------------------------------------------------------------
i gotta agree i thought that Japanese chick sound nice..LOL even though i had no idea what she was saying
October 26, 2008 6:20 PM
 

odeisel said:

Bun B looked like he was actually going off the top, him and the hurricane
October 26, 2008 6:25 PM
 

canarydon said:

Them Juelz dick riders...smh...him and Ace was clearly writtens...it's a Cipher not a residle...that's why I gave Ace over Juelz cuz L'z been in the game too long to kno better...LOSO incase ya did'nt kno so!
October 26, 2008 7:02 PM
 

EE-City said:

whats crazy is that this cipher 3 joint is like one of the hottest videos out right now.LOL
in my opinion, Jada first, then come Juelz, then loso, then the babbler who i feel didnt belong there ace, but hes on def jam so i guess they had to, i wonder what joell ortiz wouldve thrown out there into that cypher.
October 26, 2008 7:38 PM
 

Booie_09 said:

FAB Strait Up^
"Ya Swags Like Mines Cuz I Left It On Tha Corner"....(Period)

                               !"Money Get Me"!
October 26, 2008 7:50 PM
 

Bliss.UK said:

the cipher was dope but i think they tortured ace hood by putting him with the heavyweights...personally i think jada killed it even tho he wasn't energetic but dude is jus cool and whenever kiss spits its like a wise grandfather tellin his grandkid a story and the kid is thinkin wow......loso came in 2nd dude ma fav rapper n he always comes with the metaphors and punches even tho his last album was wack but he came bk with the gangsta grills n killed it....juelz was cool had a coupla one liners n couldnt really hear wat ace was saying but nice delivery
October 26, 2008 9:01 PM
 

RudePeruano said:

Jada
Fab
Santana
Ace

October 26, 2008 9:51 PM
 

TITANIC S. said:

Kiss Slayed the cipher when he said he run circles around these new Urkels
October 26, 2008 10:17 PM
 

DETROIT RED said:

THEY ALL DID THERE THING BUT MY NIG JADA STEPPED UP AND SHOWED WHY HE IS IN THAT TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE.  

FAB BLEW IT OFF.  HE WAS ON POINT.

JUELZ DEFINITELY DID IS THING I NEVER HEARD HIM SPIT LIKE THAT SINCE DEDICATION 2.  I WAS IMPRESSED.

ACE HOOD NEVER HEARD HIM SPIT THOUGH HE WAS ON POINT.  I CANT HATE.  HERE IS MY LIST.

1.  JADA
2.  JUELZ
3.  FAB
4.  ACE
October 26, 2008 10:22 PM
 

DETROIT RED said:

1.  JADA
2.  JUELZ
3.  FAB
4.  ACE
October 26, 2008 10:24 PM
 

wutangfan said:

Fab definitely killed it then I think there is a split between Jada and Juelz. Ace Hood should have not been allowed to be in that cipher. Corey Gunz would have fit in better who killed it as well.
October 26, 2008 10:28 PM
 

Myspace.com/Ijemin said:

Kiss
Fab
Santana
Ace
October 27, 2008 12:15 AM
 

GoDzSoN said:

after like the first 2 or 3 times i heard it, i woulda said jada killed it. But after listening to it just now, Fab had more lines. After him id give it to jada, then Elz. ace doesnt even count
October 27, 2008 2:16 AM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

If yall watched the entire cypher, Bun B is the only one who freestyled.

Bun B is the winner for the entire cypher.

Part 3

1. Fab
2. Jada
3. Juelz
4. Ace
October 27, 2008 2:55 AM
 

go462 said:

hard to choose. by the time it got to kiss all i heard was blah blah blah. hahaha fab and the karat/rabbit shit line. when we was makin it rain you wasnt drizzlin yet. nice nice. 1) ace 2) juelz 3) fab 4) kiss
October 27, 2008 4:17 AM
 

MattLee said:

Cory Gunz was fuckin rediculous
October 27, 2008 8:50 AM
 

mr.vip said:

they all did they thing i think it gors fab juelz then jada but ace did his thing too
October 27, 2008 9:28 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

We should have had Gunz, Fab and Jada on one cypha but that would be unfair to all the other cypha's.  I smell lyrics comin back to the game.  I must also say that Hurricane Chris is an embarrasment to hiphop.  This guy said he has been rappin since 6, you need another proffession homey.  He was hot garbage.......

Oh yeah, Jada took the crown on that session followed by Fab, Gunz and Juelz........  
October 27, 2008 9:36 AM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

"I will run circles around these new urkel's" LOL

Man fuck what yall talking bout Kiss killed that shit.....he didnt have the hard hitting punchlines like people know him for but he said some real shit


Fab got bizzy
October 27, 2008 10:22 AM
 

streeterparker said:

Kiss and Fab killed it. Juelz was cool too. But Lupe still got the best from last year hands down!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gsKSFzMtiE
October 27, 2008 10:36 AM
 

SINdeee said:

loso killed itt hands down!
then santana
than kiss
ace hood is not even on tha list , srry . didn't impress mee muchh .
October 27, 2008 1:01 PM
 

BadNewzInMyVeins said:

For real, it just depends on the type of swag you like and who you relate to. This was a hard one.  

I was with Fab at first, even though it was hard as hell to go against Kiss, cause he's just Kiss and it's always hot.

It was a cypher, so you wanna hear punch lines and Fab had the hotter punch lines to me.  
"Everybody’s coming in the year is failin', ask why, and they just play sarah palin".  Dude, you gotta be up on shit to understand that line.  And if you don't understand, don't even go vote on the 4th, cause you have no clue why you voting.

Kiss is just TOO comfortable on the mic. Kiss swag is crazy.  He did that street shit that he does.
"I just do business, I don't do friends".  You gotta be street, bout your money, in the grind, or a grown azz man to understand how deep this nigga got on that line.  I fuck with Kiss cuz I relate to dude, so he'll be #1 forever to me, no homo.
I just think Kiss did Kiss on this joint but it wasn't the cypher shit for a cypher.  So it came to Fab and Juelz with the punch lines.

My man made me listen to Juelz again and I think Juelz was hot too.  I’m gonna have to give a tie to Fab and Juelz.

But listen!  That dude Cory Gunz made his mark and got his point across that he's coming for you ole headz!  His shit won't cypher material, but dude ripped the fuck outta that shit to make his presence felt. He got his 15 mins to shine and showed niggas that if you didn't know him, you will.  I’ll be checkin' for dude.  

And Ace surprised me, he was throwin' punches in a room full of HEAVY GUNZ HOMIE!  If you only listen to this shit on the radio, they will have you thinking these dudes can't rhyme.  This industry got everybody making songs for the money now and you just think that all these one hit wonder dudes can't rhyme, WELL Ace just proved that you can't be closed minded and these cats just trying to eat and some of these dudes can actually heat up a MIC.  Shout out to Ace!  

I don't think none of these dudes were free-stylin' but Bun and Chris, so shout out to them dudes, cuz that what really was suppose to be done.  So shout out to them dudes.
BUT, for real, who in the fuck wants to freeze up on national TV with 100 million people watchin' across the world.  This ain't free-style Friday!  So I understand why you would come up there with some written shit.  I would have done the same thing.

This was a good year!  You know it's good when you got Japanese bitches flowing so hard I had to keep pushin' pause to see what that bitch was saying.  She ripped that joint and I didn't understand one word!  
October 27, 2008 3:39 PM
 

Meatwad Get Da Money said:

hurricane chris
fabolous
jadakiss
October 27, 2008 4:59 PM
 

streeterparker said:

LUPE LUPE LUPE LUPE LUPE!!!!!

A challenge to be objective about me was less stressful than analyzing a professionals’ argument on various social issues.
October 27, 2008 9:38 PM
 

streeterparker said:

October 27, 2008 10:01 PM
 

YoungEscobar87 said:

idk to me it seem like kiss should be on a diffrent weight class cuz he on another level from them no disrespect to loso but then again kiss disapointed me he should of went in really and spit that shit we all know him for and that is being one of da best slick talkers but he said some non chaluant bullshit i put him 3 spot on this one second was fab which always comes up with  a fresh new punch line everytime but da suprise was santana usually it is his carisma and confidence,swag,and delivery that he catches attention cuz he dont be saying nothing out of this world he just makes you believe he is by his delivery then you like huh? wait! that wasnt all that buddy lol nah but here he gave da full package he defantantly took it from better punchline to slicker word play and nah i aint da biggest dipset fan im just callin it how i see it ya dig!! personally if they was 2 make a round 2 and kiss was to find out all this backlash from this i think he will give nikkas da kiss of death ahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaah! :)
October 28, 2008 12:50 AM
 

streeterparker said:

can someone please tell me that lupe in tha cipher last year was sicker anybody than this year???? pleeeeeeeeeease?
October 28, 2008 3:23 PM
 

RamLine Enterprize said:

MAYHEM would have murdered all of them!!! True story...go see for ya'll selves...

http://mayhemwhoishewww.myspace.com/
October 28, 2008 6:11 PM
 

RamLine Enterprize said:

MAYHEM would have murdered all of them!!! True story...go see for ya'll selves...

http://mayhemwhoishewww.myspace.com/
October 28, 2008 6:11 PM
 

RamLine Enterprize said:

October 28, 2008 6:22 PM
 

EricSupreme said:

i gotta go with kiss b/c first off you pointed out in your own article that kiss could just roll out of bed and spit that verse thus admitting the shit is too easy for him...he killed it! and to properly judge it you can go by the niggas in the cipher. kiss got the most reaction out of them niggas. watch julez face when kiss is done. them niggas was lookin at jadakiss like the other team used to watch jordan on the ball court back in the day...watch it again you'll see!!!
October 28, 2008 6:39 PM
 

Que4Real said:

Everybody killed it!!!!!!!!!




Whats Poppin MC's, R&B Artist's and Producers as well as fellow Hip Hop Enthusiast!!!!!! Make sure to check out http://gothaze. com/.
GoThAzE is the perfect solution to building your own presence online amongst a community of Artists and friends - it is fast, extremely flexible and very powerful. Artist as well as Producers can post music for viewing as well as sell their tracks individually or sell whole albums cutting out the middle man. As long as you own your music you can sell it. Think of GoThaze as Myspace only specific to the Hip Hop Community. Create a free Account Today!!! Upgrade the account and have access to Free Mixtapes from your favorite DJ's as well as tons of other Hip Hop related Content.
Thanks 4 Using GoThAzE. com 4 your Hip Hop Promotion as well as Networking!!!!!
Email daboss@gothaze.com
October 30, 2008 9:19 PM
 

Que4Real said:

Check Out All Three Rounds At Gothaze.com

Whats Poppin MC's, R&B Artist's and Producers as well as fellow Hip Hop Enthusiast!!!!!! Make sure to check out http://gothaze. com/.
GoThAzE is the perfect solution to building your own presence online amongst a community of Artists and friends - it is fast, extremely flexible and very powerful. Artist as well as Producers can post music for viewing as well as sell their tracks individually or sell whole albums cutting out the middle man. As long as you own your music you can sell it. Think of GoThaze as Myspace only specific to the Hip Hop Community. Create a free Account Today!!! Upgrade the account and have access to Free Mixtapes from your favorite DJ's as well as tons of other Hip Hop related Content.
Thanks 4 Using GoThAzE. com 4 your Hip Hop Promotion as well as Networking!!!!!
Email daboss@gothaze.com

October 30, 2008 9:23 PM
Anonymous comments are disabled. Sign up or Login
Reviews Archives
 >