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Oasis Bassist on Jay-Z: “Grow Up!” 
Published Monday, September 29, 2008 7:20 AM
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By Ismael AbduSalaam

A member of the rock group Oasis still has critical comments for Jay-Z, the rapper/mogul whom the group engaged in a brief war of words with over the summer.

 

In June, the band’s frontman Noel Gallagher threw the first verbal salvo, criticizing the rapper’s artistic merit and choice to headline the high-profile, traditionally rock-centered UK Glastonbury festival.

 

Jay responded by calling Gallagher’s comments “ignorant” and indicative of the old guard mindset of wanting to keep obsolete, traditional music barriers in place.

 

In light-hearted acknowledgment of his detractors, Jay interpolated the group’s hit single “Wonderwall” to start his memorable Glastonbury closing set.

 

Although Gallagher has since backed away from his inflammatory comments, Oasis bassist Gem Archer has dubbed the Brooklyn native immature for what he feels was a cheap shot on Jay’s new single “Jockin Jay-Z.”

 

“It’s like eight year old girls in the schoolyard, running off and writing ditties like that,” Archer fumed to The Sun newspaper. “Grow up!”

 

Archer also disparaged the battle tradition in Hip-Hop culture, characterizing all rappers as overly aggressive and lovers of controversy.

 

“But rappers love a ruck,” he reasoned. “It’s what they do. They set out to have a fight and it's there in their lyrics. They love biffo.”

 

This past week Jay-Z announced a label partnership with producer team Stargate, and is putting the finishes touches on his highly anticipated Blueprint 3 album.

 

At press time, Jay could not be reached for comment.


Comments

 

Will Grimey said:

so what?
September 29, 2008 7:32 AM
 

Will Grimey said:

“But rappers love a ruck,” he reasoned. “It’s what they do. They set out to have a fight and it's there in their lyrics. They love biffo.”

he doesn't even understand hip hop....
September 29, 2008 7:34 AM
 

Deeper Than Rap said:

September 29, 2008 7:40 AM
 

Deeper Than Rap said:

September 29, 2008 7:40 AM
 

Ten $ Shades said:


Jokes in the Morning haha!

......' it's what they do. They set out to have a fight
and it's there in their lyrics. They love biffo.'

September 29, 2008 7:40 AM
 

TheyCallMeJim said:

hehe man fuck gay-z and that group they be acting like bitches
September 29, 2008 7:41 AM
 

Grumpy said:

No one cares about Oasis 'cept a few UK heads. These dudes don't even like each other; brothers fighting on stage and shit. They need to grow up.
September 29, 2008 7:41 AM
 

Eight Mile Road Music News » Oasis Bassist on Jay-Z: ???Grow Up!??? said:

September 29, 2008 7:46 AM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

he probably right but do they have an album coming out or are they just trying to help jay promote his?
September 29, 2008 7:53 AM
 

AreRaY said:

TheyCallMeJim said:
hehe man fuck gay-z and that group they be acting like bitches

gotta be a prick

In June, the band’s frontman Noel Gallagher threw the first verbal salvo, criticizing the rapper’s artistic merit and choice to headline the high-profile, traditionally rock-centered UK Glastonbury festival.



Jay responded by calling Gallagher’s comments “ignorant” and indicative of the old guard mindset of wanting to keep obsolete, traditional music barriers in place.

<<<From the beginning it sounded like somebody was a lil pissed that Hov was headlining something in his home country...jealous ass

Jay-Z aint gotta grow up, his money grown like a mawfucka
as a matter of fact his age gotta catch up to his bank account

September 29, 2008 8:01 AM
 

HipHopTrack said:

lol.. its funny how Jay Z is 40 and still dissin folks.. I like Jay Z but his last 2 albums were garbage! I think (Blueprint 3 ) is gonna flop... "Jockin Jay Z" is horrible! 50's album is gonna be better anyway! Hip Hop aint the same anyway! The good rappers dont sell and the horrible ones do... The nice Mc's have wack beats and the horrible rapper have ok beats.. Well except jeezy, his beats suck and he's horrible on the mic..Jeezy is jus plain wack
September 29, 2008 8:09 AM
 

MRGODBYROAD said:

awwwwwwww did he hurt ur little feelings
September 29, 2008 8:14 AM
 

Napoleon Solo said:

I'm fed up of reading about this washed up 90's indie band who have not been relevant since the 'Morning Glory' album.

Two words for Oasis...
Blur Won!


September 29, 2008 8:16 AM
 

Deeper Than Rap said:

September 29, 2008 8:20 AM
 

Deeper Than Rap said:

September 29, 2008 8:20 AM
 

Jay Z Grow Up... - RRT - Real Rap Talk said:

September 29, 2008 8:22 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

HipHopTrack said:
lol.. its funny how Jay Z is 40 and still dissin folks.. I like Jay Z but his last 2 albums were garbage! I think (Blueprint 3 ) is gonna flop... "Jockin Jay Z" is horrible! 50's album is gonna be better anyway! Hip Hop aint the same anyway! The good rappers dont sell and the horrible ones do... The nice Mc's have wack beats and the horrible rapper have ok beats.. Well except jeezy, his beats suck and he's horrible on the mic..Jeezy is jus plain wack
September 29, 2008 8:09 AM
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Is that u Gem Archer?!? You have no place on this site.....get lost.
c/s with Will Grimey, that statement was really lame!
September 29, 2008 8:27 AM
 

new account said:

LOL.........childish???? White people trip me out......always wanna start shit then when you respond, and make you look like you the bad guy........
September 29, 2008 8:27 AM
 

PiffStopher Walken said:

I don't understand why ya'll are so blind, today and yesterday is so on point as far as what these oasis cats are saying.  Yesterday they said "we went to the def jam tour when hip hop actually ment something, when it was inspirational"  I mean do you really think hip hop is the same?  I can't really respect any artist out right now, they ARE all about fighting and bravado and who can handle beef better.  What ever happened to mic skills, shit what ever happened to the 90's!!  Thats the last time Hip Hop was breathing, hip hop now is a fad, you ALL know it
September 29, 2008 8:42 AM
 

Hypnotice7 said:

In other news....yawn
September 29, 2008 8:54 AM
 

getmoney2 said:

EXCLUSIVE.


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September 29, 2008 9:01 AM
 

DruMANATI said:

@PiffStopher Walken...


i agree. though these Oasis guys need to lay off and get off jay dick. they are from the outside looking in and thats how most mainstream, non-hiphop heads see hiphop nowadays. the entire culture is a joke. it is hardly music anymore just bravado.


you see on sportcenter scott van pelt and other white sportscasters quoting tribe called quest and de la on the low during broadcasts. but that wont happen with the youth of today listening to this shit because its all b/s and they will realize this when they get older and figure out how whack all this music really is. people from the 80's generation are still fans of the "golden era" because it wasnt about the bullshit and as they grew into adults they still remember these tracks and songs from their childhood. that will not happen with todays music.
September 29, 2008 9:01 AM
 

HipHopTrack said:

hip hop will never be the same ...1988 and 1994 were the best years
September 29, 2008 9:03 AM
 

TheDropOut said:

Oasis Are More Liked Then Jay-Z I Love Jay-Z But Am British And Trust Me, Oasis Are AS Big As Jay. Music Wise And Internationally.
September 29, 2008 9:04 AM
 

WhitneynStevie said:

I mean, anyone that knows the story of Oasis, or has watch VH1 knows that this dude fights his own brother on stage. So, I dont think he's qualified to tell someone to grow up.
September 29, 2008 9:04 AM
 

HipHopTrack said:

music is changing, no one plays instruments anymore
September 29, 2008 9:09 AM
 

HipHopTrack said:

some gay person on here keeps changing my password..its fine though, I have already reported you to the police
September 29, 2008 9:12 AM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

LMAO

WHO???

Love a ruck??

Biffo??

too early in the morning for this shit!
September 29, 2008 9:19 AM
 

unknown2 said:

Is this really news??..people like that are SUPPOSED to hate hip hop, shit he already said he didnt like it lets leave it at that                 FUCK
September 29, 2008 9:21 AM
 

barthoulmeu said:

Jay-z problaly should have started his own festival overseas instead of just trying to takeover somebody else's tradition or should have been the opening act at glastonbury out of respect to the past artists
September 29, 2008 9:27 AM
 

reno nevada said:

What in the blue hell is a "biffo"?
September 29, 2008 9:27 AM
 

Boss Up said:

black people don't care about Oasis
September 29, 2008 9:29 AM
 

NightFall914 said:

smh @ "biffo"

That made "Superman dat ho" sound creative.
September 29, 2008 9:36 AM
 

stevenyayo said:

IMO he has a point. I mean what would Jay-Z done if there was a hip-hop concert in Brooklyn and they had Oasis be the headliner? he woulda said some stuff too.
September 29, 2008 9:38 AM
 

Boss Up said:

stevenyayo said:
IMO he has a point. I mean what would Jay-Z done if there was a hip-hop concert in Brooklyn and they had Oasis be the headliner? he woulda said some stuff too.

mane it was called the Glatonsbury festival not called a Rock N Roll festival

September 29, 2008 9:54 AM
 

Young Caine said:

stevenyayo said:
IMO he has a point. I mean what would Jay-Z done if there was a hip-hop concert in Brooklyn and they had Oasis be the headliner? he woulda  

^^ Makes sense...but I'mstill ridin wit Jay. Fuck Oasis!
September 29, 2008 9:58 AM
 

That Fly Man said:

The Glastonbury fest' focus is contemporary arts, for most part I think music, so in that sense Oasis Bassist had no argument, now speaking from conjecture myself, over time it probably became a goes-without-saying type of thing that it's a rock festival just because the main acts had been rock n roll for a long time or either thats the most popular music in the Glastonbury area.

September 29, 2008 10:07 AM
 

tabs said:

This shit right here is mad stupid.  I'm going back to enjoying my vacation - by sleepin'.
September 29, 2008 10:07 AM
 

Tommy K. said:

I didn't hear it yet...
September 29, 2008 10:11 AM
 

theillseed said:

the media is causing a beef again!
September 29, 2008 10:15 AM
 

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September 29, 2008 10:20 AM
 

Swagga said:

I'm a hip-hop head but look... Most of these acts trying to get on ARE INVOLVED IN BEEF... Oasis is not far off from their characterizations of TODAY'S ARTIST... EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE. Now, about Jay-Z?? THEY'RE WRONG because you can't find too many beefs Jay-Z has partaken in. JAY-Z HASN'T HAD ANY SERIOUS BEEFS SINCE "The Takeover" ! ! ! In fact, THAT WAS ABOUT HIS ONLY ONE ! ! ! And he always BYPASSES BEEF.

I think it is apparent that OASIS is only PARTIALLY INFORMED, and MAJORLY BIASED.
September 29, 2008 10:26 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

@ BOSS UP

CORRECTION... AMERICANS DONT LIKE OASIS... I KNOW NUFF BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE THERE TUNES

DO BLACK PEOPLE ONLY LIKE BLACK ARTISTS THEN??? NO, U MAY ONLY LIKE BLACK MUSICIANS... I FEEL SORRY IF UR MUSIC TASTES ARE CONFINED TO BLACK ARTISTS ONLY
September 29, 2008 10:31 AM
 

tha clear said:

I don't know about their music but they make great contact lens. lol
September 29, 2008 10:32 AM
 

long_tong said:

LMAO @ "ruck" and "biffo".
September 29, 2008 10:43 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

MAN..... Lmao! WTF???

Man I dont even understand the shit he was saying. What is ruck? Biddo?? Man that nigga need to get his english game up....He should diss Hov wit shit we understand like "FUCK THAT NIGGA!" lol....It would be easier to keep up.

Man this gone get outta hand in minute. Its gone be the UK vs Brooklyn...LMAO.....Na 4real tho, fuck this story. AHH quit posting shit about this
September 29, 2008 10:48 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

 Water Ur Seeds said:
@ BOSS UP

CORRECTION... AMERICANS DONT LIKE OASIS... I KNOW NUFF BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE THERE TUNES

DO BLACK PEOPLE ONLY LIKE BLACK ARTISTS THEN??? NO, U MAY ONLY LIKE BLACK MUSICIANS... I FEEL SORRY IF UR MUSIC TASTES ARE CONFINED TO BLACK ARTISTS ONLY
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@ Waterseed

Yea u right. I dont even know who they is, but I have to give them credit on that Jay-Z diss. It wasnt bad....It was better then "Ether"......maybe not that good but it was decent. This is still a corny beef tho!
September 29, 2008 10:51 AM
 

sillyme said:

gawd jayz stans or stans in general are so annoying. I mean you got people getting vexed over this statement, & got a problem with oasis saying jayz should stick to hiphop cause he don't know how to play guitar and he dont' know shit about rock.

However oasis need to shut the fuck up, cause they don't know shit about hiphop????? If jayz can borrow from rock and not know shit about rock, so why can't a rock band comment on JAYZ.

hiphop needs to grow the fuck up REAL TALK.SMDH.
September 29, 2008 10:55 AM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

TheDropOut said:
Oasis Are More Liked Then Jay-Z I Love Jay-Z But Am British And Trust Me, Oasis Are AS Big As Jay. Music Wise And Internationally.  


yeah but most of the people on this site are too stuck up jay's ass to realize that.  they probably bigger than jay in most of the rest of the world really.
September 29, 2008 11:01 AM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

  Quiseebaby said:
MAN..... Lmao! WTF???

Man I dont even understand the shit he was saying. What is ruck? Biddo?? Man that nigga need to get his english game up....He should diss Hov wit shit we understand like "FUCK THAT NIGGA!" lol....It would be easier to keep up.


he is speaking real english.  we don't speak english over here.  we speak american
September 29, 2008 11:03 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

@ Jamaican Pimp

Yea u right let me rephrase it.......

"Nigga get yo american slang game up!!!!"



There we go
September 29, 2008 11:05 AM
 

TonyMalibu said:

That Champagne Supernova was the shit back in the day!
September 29, 2008 11:22 AM
 

Nex Gin said:

Quiseebaby said:
MAN..... Lmao! WTF???

Man I dont even understand the shit he was saying. What is ruck? Biddo?? Man that nigga need to get his english game up....He should diss Hov wit shit we understand like "FUCK THAT NIGGA!" lol....It would be easier to keep up.

Man this gone get outta hand in minute. Its gone be the UK vs Brooklyn...LMAO.....Na 4real tho, fuck this story. AHH quit posting shit about this
------------------------------

lmao.  True story.
September 29, 2008 11:23 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

RUCK = FIGHT
September 29, 2008 11:35 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

 tha clear said:
I don't know about their music but they make great contact lens. lol
September 29, 2008 10:32 AM  
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lmao @ that one.
@ sillyme, no one is upset, this is called a forum and we're disagreeing with what he said, and how he said it, lol, and since we are entitled to our opinions I think you should let us be, thanks and good day to you....
September 29, 2008 11:47 AM
 

gorgan said:

IS THIS COMING FROM THE SAME GROUP WHERE ONE OF THEM WAS TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING ROBBIE WILLIAMS MADE DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT RADIOHEAD AND COLDPLAY STARTED A [RUCK] IN GERMANY AND GOT HIS TEETH NOCKED THE FUCK OUT /                                                                i'm gonna quote me some SlickRick .  .  .  .  .  HA HA HA HA HA HAA I HAD TO FIND THAT FUNNY , AND I SAID NO CHILD I WORK HARD FOR THE MONEY , AND CALLING ME A THIEF PLEASE DON'T EVEN TRY IT , SIT DOWN EAT YA SLICE A PIZZA AND BE QUIET  
September 29, 2008 11:49 AM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

Archer also disparaged the battle tradition in Hip-Hop culture, characterizing all rappers as overly aggressive and lovers of controversy.


I don't agree with everything he said but this much is definitely true..It's not so true of Jay as far as being overly aggressive but as far as controversy he planned and baited Nas and Mobb Deep in..Most of his other battles were guys coming at him and he didn't really react in the same way..In other words he didn't really get at niggaz that could've caused him bodily harm..Jay like to battle he never could handle beef..
September 29, 2008 12:02 PM
 

Davy da prince said:

@Whitneynstevie

U tryn to pass judgement but u dnt know oasis urself noel and liam where the brothers fighting gem archer is different aint hatin on u bro. but get ur facts straight.
September 29, 2008 12:10 PM
 

Nex Gin said:

gorgan said:
IS THIS COMING FROM THE SAME GROUP WHERE ONE OF THEM WAS TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING ROBBIE WILLIAMS MADE DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT RADIOHEAD AND COLDPLAY STARTED A [RUCK] IN GERMANY AND GOT HIS TEETH NOCKED THE FUCK OUT /                                                                i'm gonna quote me some SlickRick .  .  .  .  .  HA HA HA HA HA HAA I HAD TO FIND THAT FUNNY , AND I SAID NO CHILD I WORK HARD FOR THE MONEY , AND CALLING ME A THIEF PLEASE DON'T EVEN TRY IT , SIT DOWN EAT YA SLICE A PIZZA AND BE QUIET  

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lmao.  c/s.  We call that "Convenient Amnesia".......you know......that condition that most politicians and racists suffer from.
September 29, 2008 12:12 PM
 

AcieKing said:

Oasis is Noel's band so only his opinion should matter. Fuck a bassist. But I love how all you ignorant dick riders are so quick to discredit an act based on what they say about your favorite rapper. Did anybody else read what was posted before when Noel was talkin' bout how Public Enemy was the shit and lately it's just been about trash (in the mainstream)?
September 29, 2008 12:21 PM
 

marty mcfly 55 said:

@thedropout
shut the fuck up. jay went and took over yo country. he got the oasis sales up. over here in the states where shit really matters we know who jay is not oasis. take yo hatin ass on somewhere u probly got a jay cd and be bumpin it
September 29, 2008 12:28 PM
 

Davy da prince said:

The media jus playin this shit up. And Jay-z didnt take ova the U.k nor did he raise oasis sales cuz they bigger than him in the u.k period.
September 29, 2008 12:48 PM
 

Boss Up said:

Water Ur Seeds said:
@ BOSS UP
CORRECTION... AMERICANS DONT LIKE OASIS... I KNOW NUFF BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE THERE TUNES
DO BLACK PEOPLE ONLY LIKE BLACK ARTISTS THEN??? NO, U MAY ONLY LIKE BLACK MUSICIANS... I FEEL SORRY IF UR MUSIC TASTES ARE CONFINED TO BLACK ARTISTS ONLY

why white people get upset at comments like that?

i don't even feel like clarifying what i mean by that
September 29, 2008 12:52 PM
 

barthoulmeu said:

boss up is right about the brookln comment jay aint bringing oasis to headline anything in NYC  he's performing in
September 29, 2008 1:08 PM
 

Apostle13 said:

for all you other cats throwing shots at jigga/ u only get half a bar....
September 29, 2008 1:36 PM
 

oekilla said:

Wow.. he said Jay-Z be starting mad biffo!
I'mma use that on the block now. Yo you got biffo with me? huh?
September 29, 2008 1:50 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

“But rappers love a ruck,” he reasoned. “It’s what they do. They set out to have a fight and it's there in their lyrics. They love biffo.”

^^What the fuck you mean by "It's what they do"?  So you're saying ALL hip hop artists are troublesome and just look to get into fights everywhere 24/7 and are just whoopin' somebody ass all day everyday?  Somebody needs to whoop YOUR ass for poppin' shit, THAT was childish and HELLA overexaggerated, 'cause most Hip Hop/Rap Artists ain't even down to get physical like they say they are in their records..

...sound like a jealous prejudice mothafucka to me.  Jay wrecked at the Festival and it's hurting him inside.  Fuckin' cry-baby.  Let it go, you got PUNKED.  TAKE THE LOSS LIKE A MAN.  Fuckin' pansy.
September 29, 2008 3:29 PM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

Cah them comments just create more separation blud, it sounds like black people can only like shit that comes from A black person, when I know rastas that fuck with some Oasis tunes, I mean I really fuckin hate Liam or Nole I get dem mixed up, but they got some good tunes, U dont speak for every black person, the comment sounds ignorant, but I know how rascist America is, so I can overstand some of Ur comments... U need to visit UK and C how U wud Be treated over hear...
September 29, 2008 4:11 PM
 

Daily Recap - 9/29/08 at SNICKA.com said:

September 29, 2008 4:40 PM
 

lchelle125 said:

I never even heard of this Oasis before this Jay-Z beef cause I don't like rock( it's too loud).  But I have to say that If these Oasis people took the first shot then they are wrong.  If Jay_Z was invited to the festival by the people who are in charge then there was obviously a demand for him.  It's not like he just showed up and said "get the f*** outta here Noel Gallagher and crew".  So they needed to show some respect because he is an artist like they are.  I don't wanna call racism but anytime I hear "you People" or "those People"  I get a start to get a little suspect.
September 29, 2008 4:44 PM
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