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Published Monday, August 11, 2008 9:00 PM
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By Ismael AbduSalaam


 

Cotto Speaks About Loss

 

You would think after Miguel Cotto’s phenomenal performance in a losing effort last month to Antonio Margarito that fans would be celebrating the Puerto Rican star and looking forward to his next fight. But in a sport where fighters are regularly dismissed after their first loss, that’s not always the case.

 

While the majority of fight fans have no bad words to say about Cotto taking two knees after sustaining brutal punishment from Margarito, there has a been a small but vocal majority that’s has labeled Cotto a “quitter” who can dish out the brutality but can’t take it.

 

Even some fans in his native Puerto Rico are upset, arguing that previous island fighters like Felix Trinidad and Wilfredo Gomez would never have submitted like that, especially at the feet of a Mexican, their fierce boxing rivals.

 

Tired of the accusations, Cotto conducted an interview on the andra pa’l cará show and clarified his position. Here is the translation (courtesy of maxboxing.com member beastineden) regarding the criticisms of him “quitting.”

 

Host: Ok, in your case as a boxer and champion I imagine that decision was very hard to make because you're thinking “I'm the champion with no losses,” was it you that made the decision or your corner?
Cotto: I was the one that made it, my family was there, my children were present and I was thinking more about them rather than the beating I was getting.
Host: Did you get to see them?
Cotto: Yes I did, a few times.
Host: Really?
Cotto: Yes, there were right next to my corner.
Host: Does it affect ...
Cotto: Well, in this case it did a little but they've always known what my job is and what the risks are.
Host: They are used to it?
Cotto: They're not used to seeing dad in the situation that they saw me a week ago but they know the risks of my job.
Host: You gotta be brave to get up there?
Cotto: Very much, gotta be brave to get up there but it's part of the job, had a bad day but I know many good ones are still ahead.
Host: Miguel being honest, and you always tell it like it is, is it harder to get on the ring or making the decision of putting the knees down?
Cotto: I think in my case it was harder to put a knee down, like you said I didn’t have a loss in my record and to lose this way it was difficult for me, but I want health and I want to see my children grow up and that's what matters.
Host: Now that you tell me that it was you that made the decision not your corner, which is very important, did it ever cross your mind all the reactions that would come after your decision? Did you think about that?
Cotto: No it was all for the benefit of me and my family, I could care less about the comments people make.
Host: For example I heard a comment like ... 'he didn't train hard enough to get on the ring'
Cotto: I always train hard before getting on the ring, Margarito was better than me that night.
Host: For this one you even said you trained more than any other fight.
Cotto: Yes, that's how I felt.
Host: Also comments that you were drinking and partying in Las Vegas
Cotto: I party and have fun but on my time off, I’m very responsible with my job, there's two things I'm very responsible with, my job and my family and I don't play around with them.

 



Fighters know more than anyone else when their body has reached its limit. There’s nothing heroic or honorable about getting killed in a boxing ring in front of your family just so armchair commentators can put you a little higher on their pound for pound lists. As boxing fans we’re the first ones asking why wasn’t it stopped sooner when guys are seriously hurt (Nigel Benn-Gerald McClellan) or killed.

Leavander Johnson-Jesus Chavez



Ray Mancini-Duk Koo Kim



It’s time to put the unwarranted criticism to rest when fighters have gotten their heads beat in round after round and feel they’ve had enough.

 

Mosley Looks Past Mayorga to Margarito

 


Shane Mosley knows that he’s not getting any younger. Turning 37-years-old next month, he knows the time to secure lucrative and legacy defining matchups is now. Derailed earlier this year by the cancellation of his fight with Zab Judah, Mosley has begun calling out new champion Antonio Margarito even as a September 27 date looms with former champ Ricardo Mayorga.

 

“When Mayweather was on top before he retired I wanted Mayweather,” Mosley explained to media at the August 7 press conference. “Margarito is the best welterweight out there now, so I want Margarito.”


The declaration is a bold but welcomed change of opinion for Shane.  Previously the former pound for pound king turned down a Mayweather fight in his post fight interview after the second Vargas fight (Mayweather went on to fight champion Carlos Baldomir on November 2006), and also stated he wasn’t ready for Margarito after initially returning to welterweight in 2005.

 

Mosley is expected to easily defeat the limited Mayorga which would open doors for the Margarito showdown, a solid alternative for Antonio if he cannot secure a bout with cash cow Oscar De La Hoya. Mosley is on record as stating he would be ready for the Tijuana Tornado by December.

 

At the press conference Mayorga was his usual jovial self, bringing pink gloves for Shane to wear at the fight, and proclaiming he was going to make Shane his “woman” and also “retire him so he can enjoy the fruits of his labor.” Using Vernon Forrest’s domination of Mosley in early 2002, Mayorga went on to say he’ll beat Shane worse and take him out within three rounds.

 

Mosley of course took everything in stride and seemed to enjoy Mayorga’s entertaining promotion of the bout.



Ironically, this fight is over five years overdue. This bout was scheduled to take place in 2003 if Mayorga would not have been upset for the welterweight title by then unknown slickster Cory Spinks.



Overdue or not, Mayorga has never been in the class of a fighter like Shane Mosley. This truth has been proven correct most of time the Nicaraguan slugger has been in with the elite fighters of the past 15 years (De La Hoya, Trinidad) sans Vernon Forrest. Expect Shane to TKO Mayorga by the sixth or seventh round.



Pavlik-Hopkins - October 18, 2008 on PPV

 


Also on the promotion trail, middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik and former light-heavyweight and middleweight champ Bernard Hopkins met in Philadelphia to officially announce their October PPV bout. Pavlik has stated he can no longer make 160, so the fight will be contested at 170 pounds, new territory for the young champion.

 

Pavlik is coming off an easy mandatory defense against unheralded Gary Locket in June, while Hopkins is trying to rebound from a split decision loss to Joe Calzaghe in April. Pavlik has a record of 34-0 with 30 KOs, winning the middleweight title in September 2007. Hopkins is 48-5-1, with 32 KOs and has a record of 2-3 in his last five bouts. Pavlik also holds a 17 year age advantage over the 43 year old former champ, something Hopkins dismisses based on his recent performances.

 

“I never been afraid of no Ghost. Challenges to me are motivation,” Hopkins explained at the press conference. “If anybody here feels I’m coming here like a loser needing to gain ground, then maybe I’m in denial. Most of the reporters were at ringside April 18 (against Calzaghe), I believe I’m coming in fighting as a winner...I’m a threat to anybody that steps in the ring with Bernard Hopkins.”

 

Pavlik, who could not secure fights with Felix Sturm, Arthur Abraham, or Joe Calzaghe, is content to face the Executioner and feels they will deliver a solid fight for boxing fans.

 

“He’s (Bernard Hopkins) the biggest name out there,” Pavlik reasoned to media. “Calzaghe, I don’t know I gotta shoot him in the leg to stop him from running. Abraham has his mandatory coming up so when they said Hopkins I said ‘that’s it, let’s do this.’ It’s gonna be a blue collar fight. I don’t change my style, I come forward. I get in the best shape I can possibly get into and that’s what we’re going to do on October 18th. It’ll be a pleasure to be in the ring with him and never in my lifetime did I think I’d be facing him”

 

Samuel Peter Vows to Retire Klitschko Family

 


Samuel Peter has unfinished business with Wladimir Klitschko, but for now he’s willing to settle for big brother Vitali, who he faces on October 11 for the WBC heavyweight title. Due to numerous injuries, Vitali Klitschko has been on a four-year sabbatical from the sport since defeating Danny Williams in December 2004. Attempts to fight in 2005 and 2006 were mired by nagging leg injuries.

 

Since he never lost the title in the ring, the WBC guaranteed Vitali an immediate title shot should he ever return, prompting this October bout. Samuel Peter won the WBC strap in March 2008 after knocking out veteran Oleg Maskaev in 6 rounds. Now champion in a fractured division, Peter plans to erase all doubt about championship lineage starting with the Klitschkos.

 

“I want to send Vitali back into retirement and then end his brother’s reign as champion,” Peter vowed in a statement. “I will become the first fighter to end an entire family’s boxing career. Everyone is going down. The heavyweight division is mine.”

 

Obviously with different plans, Vitali sees this fight as the first step in a long standing dream for both Klitschkos to reign simultaneously as world champs.

 

“I cannot believe this day is finally here,” stated Klitschko in a press release. “I am injury free and ready to take my title back. My brother, Wladimir, and I have had along-time goal of being heavyweight champions at the same time.  That dream will be realized when I take back what is rightfully mine, the WBC heavyweight title. The next step will be holding all of the heavyweight belts with Wladmir.”

 

Vitali deserves a lot of credit for taking on the number two heavyweight in the world in his first fight in nearly four years. However, I think it will prove to be a disastrous mistake. While a live underdog, Peter should be able to take over the second half when Vitali inevitably gets winded from the lack of ring time. In what should have been the main event, WBC light-heavyweight champ Chad Dawson (26-0, 17 KOs) will partially unify against IBF champ Antonio Tarver (27-4, 19 KOs).

 

Both guys are excellent counter-punchers and have proven themselves against elite fighters like Glen Johnson, Roy Jones, and Tomasz Adamek. While the experience edge goes to Tarver, in a boxing contest Dawson’s speed edge should help squeeze out a close decision.

 

Formal Negotiations Open between De La Hoya and Pacquiao



After months of speculation, formal talks officially began as Pacquaio promoter Bob Arum (Top Rank) met with Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer to start hammering out details on a proposed December 6 superfight between De La Hoya and Pacquiao. The first meeting commenced on August 6, and according to both parties the two hour plus session went extremely well.

 

“We met and there are some issues, but it was a good meeting,” Schaefer explained to ESPN.com. “I think what it will take is for a Manny to give and for Oscar to give to get a deal done. That’s pretty much what it is. But the fact that we had a two hour-plus meeting is obviously a good sign. If it had been a five-minute meeting it would indicate the gaps are too big.”

 

Arum whole-heartedly agrees. “I can say without any question none of that will be a problem, weight or gloves,” Arum clarified. “We are working essentially on the split.”

 

Pacquiao last competed at lightweight on June 28, stopping David Diaz in nine rounds to pick up the WBC title. De La Hoya won a decision against Steve Forbes in May, weighing 150 pounds for that bout. In order for the fight to come off, Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach has been adamant that the fight must take place at 147 pounds.

 

Arum also promotes Antonio Margarito, who has expressed his preference of facing De La Hoya in his next bout. But with Pacquiao being immensely more popular, Margarito’s chances of landing De La Hoya are very slim. “I think Margarito has some other things planned,” Schaefer stated to Espn, alluding to the last man to defeat Antonio. “I think he should go fight Paul Williams.”

 

Arum remained a little more hopeful and upbeat. “Antonio is still out there and hasn’t been totally rejected by the De La Hoya people,” Arum clarified. “It came up, but Richard has to sit with Oscar and see what he wants to do.”

 

Cintron Signs with Promoter Lou DiBella, Eyes Miguel Cotto

 


Kermit Cintron has signed a multi-year contract with New York-based promoter Lou DiBella. The power punching welterweight is seeking to immediately rejoin the title race after being overwhelmed and stopped by Antonio Margarito in April. DiBella has booked Cintron for a tuneup bout on the Jermain Taylor-Jeff Lacy undercard, and is already looking towards a Puerto Rican showdown with Miguel Cotto.

 

“Cotto-Cintron is an interesting fight,” DiBella told espn.com. “I mentioned that to [Cotto promoter] Bob Arum. I’m happy to be working with Kermit. I like the guy and it makes sense for me to work in the division. Kermit is the young guy and losing to Margarito is no disgrace because the guy is a beast.” DiBella also represents WBC welterweight champ Andre Berto and former WBO titlist Carlos Quintana. Cintron’s record is 29-2(27 KOs).

 

Throwback Fighter of the Week: Carlos Monzon

 

There’s many reasons you could list why Carlos Monzon is considered the best middleweight of all time. First, you could look at his record of 87-3-9 (59 KOs). Or you could point to his seven year middleweight reign, where he made 14 defenses. Tall and rangy with a powerful right hand, many didn’t expect much from Monzon early in his career after losing three fights in his first 20 bouts.

 

That all changed when Monzon stopped veteran Nino Benvenuti in 1970 to win the middleweight title after 12 rounds. He was even more dominant in rematch, stopping Benvenuti in 3 rounds in 1971. Monzon continued his reign by being the second man to stop Hall of Famer Emile Griffith in 1971, and outpointing him in a 1973 rematch.

 

Great welterweight Jose Napoles also found himself overwhelmed at middleweight, and Monzon battered him 1974 to a corner stoppage. After two hard-fought decision victories over younger rival Rodrigo Valdez, Monzon retired on top in 1977. However, Monzon’s rage outside the ring proved to be his downfall. A notorious woman beater, in 1988 Monzon was sentenced to 11 years in prison after killing his wife by throwing her off a balcony.

 

In 1995, he was killed in a car crash on his way back from an approved weekend furlough with his children. People to this day continue to speculate if Monzon used the crash to commit suicide. His final record stands at 87-3-9 (59 KOs).

 

Benvenuti-Monzon I (Round 12) (Monzon in lighter trunks)


Benvenuti-Monzon II



Monzon-Griffith I (Round 14)



Monzon vs. Napoles






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Comments

 

Stepson said:

First
August 11, 2008 9:22 PM
 

Boss Up said:

yo why is Hopkins still fighting?

is he backed up in child support?
August 11, 2008 9:35 PM
 

GeeQue said:

shane is my dude... one of my favs... but i dont see him beating margarito. shane always has trouble w/ taller dudes, even if he has more talent than them (winky, vernon). i agree that he'll handle mayorga. either way, i would def watch a mosley / margarito fight... the one thing shane has a huge advantage over antonio is speed so u never know. as for pavlik / hopkins & de la hoya / pacman, blah who cares. oscar is a chump and always has been. there's only one guy he should face and that's margarito. why does he wanna fight a dude that JUST went up to 135?!? de la hoya fights at 147 and has fought higher!
August 11, 2008 10:07 PM
 

CHAMILLITARY - CWAL MOB said:

All tht shit talkin' mannnn somebody gone get they ass kick'd, "Pink Gloves"
August 11, 2008 10:44 PM
 

Pralims said:

my point is that cotto shouldnt have took a knee....outside of the beating a real champion would have readjusted. If you can't knock him out then just stick and move.....even if he is still coming at you. cotto has to be smart and could have clinched and ran for the last rounds. Margo is easy top hit and it made cotto look that much better. It just goes to prove my point always. he was a protected fighter who got his ass beat when he stepped off the porch. Just shows he flods under pressure. Even tyson at his lowest point took a long beating from lennox. took it like a man and i have that much more respect for him. but cotto.....all the next guy has to do is put the pressure on.
August 12, 2008 12:04 AM
 

elflaks said:

for years fighters in this weight class have been ducking margarito,fighters that were suppossed to be the best.now we know why,i give cotto credit for taking this fight&fighting the way he did,the better man won,it has nothing to do with race or anything but intestinal fortitude,who wants it more!its unfair to say he quit,it wasnt a Duran,he gave it what he had&realized he was overmatched that night.
August 12, 2008 12:35 AM
 

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Yeah he eye jimmied him up

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August 12, 2008 1:51 AM
 

prakash1 said:

hopkins, has yet to really lose a fight. i mean, he got out husseled by the arkansas dude jermain taylor. on paper, calzage landed more punches (powderpuff, according to several fighters and experts in attendace). hopefully, he has a good fight this time. the deal is that he practically has given up the first 4 to 6 rounds of every fight during his career. so he always has to fight from "behind" to win.

cotto, is supposed to be a super warrior. i think he could overpower mayweather (yes, i said it) eventually. he quit plain in simple. but if he thought his life was on the line. shut it down.

i hope the brother takes town the russian brothers.  
August 12, 2008 4:30 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

I said all along Cotto did Himself proud, I was very impressed, all the people talkin ish bout Him have never laced up A pair of gloves.

Shane gonna bring the pain

@ ALLAHSCHILD
Im reading A book U'll like
'Jack Johnson - Unforgivable Blackness - The Rise and Fall'
Im all waiting for
'Four Kings, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran' check them out see what you think

Shane should where the pink gloves and batter Mayorga, that wud Be A statement

Monzon was A warrior in and outside of the ring... women and troubles seem to plague boxers and rappers... word to Tyson and Pac
August 12, 2008 5:16 AM
 

Allahschild said:

@ Water Ur Seeds

Yeah, that book is great, even better than the documentary that came out on it. Johnson is on deck for Throwback Fighter of the Week but I'd like to hold him until right after a major fight so he can get exposed to people who may not be aware of him.

Will check out that Four Kings joint...
August 12, 2008 9:54 AM
 

Sovietnam said:

not wise to talk shit like that bout the twin drago brothers.
August 12, 2008 10:28 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

@ ALLAHSCHILD
I didnt realize it was Documentary awel... Im defo gonna watch that cheers, Ive saw documentary of Him on ESPN Classics A while back, dont fink it was that one tho, PEACE
August 12, 2008 10:31 AM
 

Mr. LoS said:

So, why is no one talking about Paul Williams recently beating Margarito and not getting a shot at anyone? The promoters are ruining the sport.
August 12, 2008 12:25 PM
 

puertoROCbudha said:

ight lets set some shit straight, cotto was the better BOXER that night, all margarito is and has been is a dude dat throws 1,000 sloppy ass punches n takes da same, wat u expect wit dat big ass mexican head of course he takes shots, n all u mothafuckas talkin like u wouldnt quit n u lost respect for cotto r some stupid ignorant niggas, yea like yall would stand up afta all those shots, pls keep da shit 100, n i dnt give a fuck cus my cuzo Daniel Santos done beat margarito, n if u think im bullshittin look it up , wat ?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?
August 12, 2008 12:37 PM
 

AZ Westsider said:

in that Ray Mancini-Duk Koo Kim, duk koo kim got major brain injuries and died 5 days after, and then months later his mom committed suicide and the referee felt so guilty he also committed suicide! so if u think about it mancini and boxing were responsible for 3 lives being lost that day and it pretty much ended his career cuz he could never recover from that depression
August 12, 2008 1:28 PM
 

AZ Westsider said:

puertorocbudha get used to seeing big headed mexicans whooping on puerto ricans asses cuz its always happened ever since salvador sanchez beating wilfredo gomez! and dont forget that flop of a fighter felix trinidad! ha ha what a joke!
August 12, 2008 1:39 PM
 

K.A.K. DEUCE said:

Cotto is a stand up dude, humble, unlike a lot of other top rated athletes. Boxing is a one punch sport meaning one punch can change everything. He admitted Margarito was the better man THAT nite.

Was all u Zab fans talkin bout Zab when Cotto made him do the same thing? Especially after he did all that sh*t talkin???

People tap out in MMA all the time and they don't get the 3rd degree for it. So yall quit hatin on Cotto, haven't u ever heard the phrase it's better to be safe than sorry. Look at Ali...

By Haters!
August 12, 2008 1:52 PM
 

puertoROCbudha said:

  AZ Westsider said:
puertorocbudha get used to seeing big headed mexicans whooping on puerto ricans asses cuz its always happened ever since salvador sanchez beating wilfredo gomez! and dont forget that flop of a fighter felix trinidad! ha ha what a joke!

yea n tito didnt fuck up a few mexicans in his day?? well known fact a boricua named daniel santos took it to ya boi margarito n i dnt wnna hear all yo mexican bullshit, i dnt fuck wit boder hoppin ballon head beaner cats, go sell some fruit on da corner
August 12, 2008 2:49 PM
 

puertoROCbudha said:

  AZ Westsider said:
puertorocbudha get used to seeing big headed mexicans whooping on puerto ricans asses cuz its always happened ever since salvador sanchez beating wilfredo gomez! and dont forget that flop of a fighter felix trinidad! ha ha what a joke!

yea n tito didnt fuck up a few mexicans in his day?? well known fact a boricua named daniel santos took it to ya boi margarito n i dnt wnna hear all yo mexican bullshit, i dnt fuck wit boder hoppin ballon head beaner cats, go sell some fruit on da corner
August 12, 2008 2:49 PM
 

puertoROCbudha said:

*border
August 12, 2008 2:50 PM
 

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