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Where Are They Now: Ms. Jade

Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:53 AM | 45 comments
By Brandon Michael Dunlap
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Philadelphia rapper Ms. Jade hasn't had major label backing since she left, producer Timbaland's now defunct Beat Club roster, but she's still the champ. Taken right off the stoop in after a chance meeting with Elektra Records A&R, Jay Brown, Jade jumped into the industry head first, and hasn't looked back since. In 2001, she was first featured alongside Da Brat and Missy Elliot on “Slap! Slap! Slap!” off her platinum album, Miss E…So Addictive, which allowed fans to taste her aggressive charming lyrical prowess.


She was even able to stay standing with the release of her 2002 debut Girl Interrupted, which failed to garner her the credit she deserved as a street contender or an industry heavyweight. The North Philly femme fatale is holding her own, taking a rope-a-dope stance on her career as an independent artist focused on the mixtape circuit to drop wins like 2007's "Million Dollar Baby" causing a stir around the web. Priming another mixtape material entitled I'm Not Dead and her sophomore album slated for release this fall, the Nicetown native wants to show everyone she packs a mean punch on the mic. In the legacy of female rap pioneers MC Lyte, Queen Latifah and Roxanne Shante, who Jade grew up listening to and emulating, she intends to protect her name and skills at all costs.


AllHipHop.com: When Girl Interrupted was released you had a stable of beats from Timabaland, guest spots from Jay-Z, Missy Elliott and Nate Dogg, yet it didn’t seem to leave a taste of your skills in people's mouths. Did you consider that album successful?


Ms. Jade: No, not at all. Business-wise it wasn't successful but for me when I came in the game, I wasn't really focused or interested. I wasn't even thinking about the numbers, I was just happy to be there. So once, you are put into a position where you have to think about all that stuff, it kind of leaves a different taste in my mouth, like right now. Back then, I just wasn't thinking about it. But to me, right now I know that it wasn't successful because I've been in the game for a minute and I know what it takes. But it got me where I needed to be. It got my name out there, I did make a little imprint, and I cranked the door open a little tiny bit.


AllHipHop.com: What do you think is the biggest reason that contributed to the downfall?


Ms. Jade: Basically, because it didn't sell. People didn't even know it came out. It's like "oh, you had an album out?" and this was maybe a f***ing week after my album dropped. Nobody knew, so I think it wasn't promoted how it was supposed to be.


AllHipHop.com: Also, when listening to Girl Interrupted it seems that you may have been conflicted between the commercial and street side. Do you feel that's how the album turned out?


Ms. Jade: Yes, I really do. Especially since I was young, whatever Tim said to do I was doing it. Because I mean, who's not going to listen to Tim? Who is not going to listen to a f***ing super producer? I didn’t have any control over my beats and I did not know at the time that I could say, "I don't want this beat" or "I don’t want to do this song." Because when I did do it, it was like this big commotion. They're like "well we want you to do a radio song" and I’m like "I don't necessarily think the song is hot." But I was put in a situation when they say I have to do it, then I have to do it ¾ otherwise I won't have any f***ing food. I tried my best to make it work. And I'm not mad at it, it's just when I hear it I cringe because I know it's not me.


AllHipHop.com: In retrospect, do you think there is a medium for you in between the varying styles on the album? Looking back on it, would you have taken more control?


"Especially since I was young, whatever Tim said to do, I was doing it. Because I mean, who's not going to listen to Tim? Who is not going to listen to a f***ing super producer? I didn’t have any control over my beats and I did not know at the time that I could say, "I don't want this beat"

-Ms. Jade


Ms. Jade: I think there is a medium for in between because you have to know who you are, especially in this business. You have to have a strong backbone. I think if you know who you are and if you know your s**t, then you know you can still be street and have your radio songs. But you don’t have to go the total opposite way of what you want.


AllHipHop.com: You're talking about standing up for yourself a lot more now. You really did that when you got involved with the beef between Timbaland and Scott Storch back in 2007. You released a diss track "Beam Me Up, Scotty" about Scott, why did you jump into that beef between them in the first place?


Ms. Jade: The beef was for them, but I felt he was taking a jab at me. Like "ya'll niggas ain't as talented as us" that's how I felt. I talked to Tim directly and he's like "yeah, basically he's talking about ya'll." So I'm like "Oh, alright well you know." It wasn't for any publicity, I'm just feeling like "Dang, Scott Storch I thought we were alright." I mean who is did Tim have? Me, Bubba, and Tweet, there was nobody else really. So I didn’t just jump out the blue or anything like "let me take up for Tim, let me say something." No, I don't give a f**k about that but when you put me in it -- I have a problem with that.




Ms. Jade - Bank Rolls


AllHiphop.com: Do you feel Beat Club had potential?


Ms. Jade: Of course, I know on my end and with Bubba, I think we have potential. I just feel like the leader had to be strong. You've got to see the situation. If you're not going to see, it then how can we? You've got to be able to say if this doesn't work then let us do something else. If your not willing to compromise, like we're compromising, ain't too much to be said about it. I don't think I was a wack rapper, Bubba wasn't wack. I might have been wrong time, wrong place, I don't know, but I think we all were hot, I know that.


AllHipHop.com: Do you still talk to Tim or anybody from Beat Club?


Ms. Jade: No, I mean if I see Tim we might buff it up for a little while but I haven't spoken to him in a couple of months, long time. There ain't no beef, I just haven't spoken to him.


Ms. Jade - "Big Head"


AllHipHop.com: How does that make you feel that before you were looking from the top down and now you're looking from the bottom upward?


Ms. Jade: I feel like the underdog but I'm me. Nobody writes for me and I don’t need to stand on nobody's shoulder. Its not any hard feelings, I asked to be released from the situation because our camp wasn't where I needed to be. I don’t know what the problem was and why it didn’t work. I don’t have any hard feelings about Tim doing his thing now. I mean that's what's up, he'll do his thing forever. I'll see you when I get there.


"Nobody writes for me and I don’t need to stand on nobody's shoulder. Its not any hard feelings, I asked to be released from the situation because our camp wasn't where I needed to be. I don’t have any hard feelings about Tim doing his thing now."


-Ms. Jade


AllHipHop.com: Since those days, Timbaland has definitely taken his style to new heights. Do you think there might be room for you to work with him in the future?


Ms. Jade: It's a possibility, anything is possible. I mean I don’t have no beef with him. Tim's all right with me, I never did anything to him and he never did anything to me.


AllHipHop.com: Recently, you've been doing a lot of work with DJ Drama and Don Cannon, like the first mixtape you dropped two years ago Million Dollar Baby. How did you feel about releasing that? Was that more the direction you wanted?


Ms. Jade: Yeah, I loved it. I'm grateful for having an album out, that's an accomplishment. But I can listen to every song on my mixtape, I can really say, it's all me. I'm proud of it because I think it was all me, the real me.


AllHipHop.com: You don’t have any reservations about doing this indie thing on your own without major label backing?

Ms. Jade: Only reservation I got is not being able to stay in those high a** hotels. I can't do those anymore but that's okay, I'll get there. I just want people to hear my music and that's it.


AllHipHop.com: What can you tell us about the new album? Do you have any set collabos planned yet? Do you have a possible release date?


Ms. Jade: I'm thinking about maybe sometime Fall 2009. As for collaborations, I want a few but not a whole bunch ¾ since I had like 13 people on my last album. I just feel like I got a lot more to say, I'm able to stand in my own two.


Ms. Jade feat. Timbaland & Nelly Furtado


Ms. Jade & Big Daddy Kane - "Set It Off 2000"


Ms. Jade's Scott Storch Diss


Comments

 

tippydickumdown said:

I wanted to like her when she came out..I think timbo's business was all fucked up,trying to have a label at that time..I wonder what she looks like now.
June 13, 2009 11:04 AM
 

theillseed said:

jade's got some lyrics...her newer stuff is better than her tim stuff actually. never sign with an artist or producer...get somebody that cares about you as an artist and person
June 13, 2009 11:11 AM
 

ZOemo100 said:

BETTER YET--WHAT HAPPENED TO TIMBERLAND????
June 13, 2009 11:23 AM
 

Divine12th said:

I actually grew up not too far from her...seen her crush "n****z" and chicks on corner cyphers, she can definitely hold her own!  

Now that she has more control over her shit, hopefully she'll get a chance to show the world the "real" Jade us Philly cats are familar with.  That furious spit...



2-1-5 in da building...

Divine, PEACE!
June 13, 2009 11:29 AM
 

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Yeah She very versatile as a artist!



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June 13, 2009 11:47 AM
 

TYBO2020 said:

I WOULD SMASH! HAD A SLIGHT CRUSH BACK THEN, SHE FIRE !!
June 13, 2009 12:00 PM
 

YoungG757NGE said:

Her & Eve need to do a track togetha like fareal. I was wonderin what went down wit that Tim shit cuz I liked some of her shit. But niggas in VA dont even fuck wit Tim like that so I dont see how someone could sign to that nigga. Tim got some shit but he a selfish ass nigga. Holla at ya nigga
June 13, 2009 12:05 PM
 

driverboy said:

i like ms. jade.  she can spit actually.  i think the problem wit timbaland was he tried 2 turn her into a missy clone.  look at the song she did with him.  even her look was missy-ish.  and plus tim wasn't really into the business aspect of the game yet.
June 13, 2009 1:02 PM
 

DontDieDontKillAnyone said:

She featured on two songs recently on an album by a production group called 'Two Fingers' (Amon Tobin and Doubleclick: http://www.myspace.com/2wofingers). Both those tunes are absolutely sick; harsh, dirty, leftfield Hip Hop beats and she went at them strong. She can most definitely spit. I hope she finds success and her way back to the top again
June 13, 2009 2:21 PM
 

HOT97 said:

She should be even more upset to find out that Timbaland didnt own all that he cliamed he owned too..He was just another Artist, he didnt even own the label, and he was being baclballed, so could you imagine anyone else that he brought into the Game..? Rapper need to be more Educated before they jump on a record..Half of these Artsists are signing there lives away...
June 13, 2009 2:28 PM
 

Six6SoCaliGuy said:

Please take note all aspiring artist!!! Just cause you get a deal doesnt mean you will blow up!!


WESTIIIIDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
June 13, 2009 2:49 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

She's right about her album not bein promoted right, I don't even remember when it dropped....
June 13, 2009 3:03 PM
 

poodab said:

shawty been slept on..she had mad fire when she came out and awhole lot of potential..these female rappers need to get to gether and do summtin..


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June 13, 2009 3:07 PM
 

brooklynci31 said:

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June 13, 2009 4:50 PM
 

DJ DI said:

Ms Jade is dope as hell. Sometimes, CEO's don't have an idea who to properly promote an artist. Timbo dropped the ball big time with this one.

HOT97 said:
She should be even more upset to find out that Timbaland didnt own all that he cliamed he owned too..He was just another Artist, he didnt even own the label, and he was being baclballed, so could you imagine anyone else that he brought into the Game..? Rapper need to be more Educated before they jump on a record..Half of these Artsists are signing there lives away





I never comment on your comments, but damn it. Why do you comment? When you got somebody like Timbo saying I got you, what do you expect them to do? Just, Ron Brown's yourself and jump out the window, PLEASE????
June 13, 2009 5:32 PM
 

Artistix said:

Man Jade is soooooooooooo  underrated she was spitting on that album and that Million Dollar Backpack was soo ill. Jade please teach these young girls how to rap these female emcees are not in the same league.

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June 13, 2009 8:35 PM
 

MrAtEase1982 said:

I brought Jade's album and I could tell she definitely had some spit to her. Tim just didn't know how to handle the biz aspect of being a label head.
June 13, 2009 9:28 PM
 

Gabe254 said:

I agree with a lot of yall. Jade was the shit and could definately hold her own!! Before Remy Ma came and did her thang, I was always into Jade!! But I always feel that Rah Digga is MY top female MC!!  Rah Digga was the 2nd best MC out of Flipmode Squad after Busta Buss!!  
June 13, 2009 9:51 PM
 

LJBronxPhillyRep said:

I remember Jade from the clue tapes. It's amazing how good MC's can't manage to make it but these half ass rappers stay on top i don't understand. I'm fuckin wit Jade i hope she do her thing...
June 13, 2009 11:29 PM
 

poe said:

I liked her when she was out. she needs to make a comeback.
June 14, 2009 12:45 AM
 

Gemini205 said:

Good interview. It sounds like she's very focused on getting back in the game on her terms and she's a female rapper that can actually rap. I respect that. I didn't know she  had a solo album until a few years later, so yeah she's right about not getting any promotion.  I didn't know about her mixtape either. I'll check that out.
June 14, 2009 1:20 AM
 

prob_limbs said:

yall got to remember what networth spiter's did tim fucc with besides the occasional jay tracc and those was on the commercial tip, tim is knot then a muthafucca and got traccs for days,but building a artist and bringing the best out of them is what these muthafuccas don't do now,the major is to busy trying to copy whats already out instead of working with the artist true self yell

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June 14, 2009 1:33 AM
 

fudge504 said:

WUDDUP JADE IF YOU READIN THIS GET AT ME ITS ONE OF YOUR OLD HOMIES FROM THE BEATCLUB DAYZ WHEN YOU MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE HOTELS I REALLY FELT YA ON THAT I MISS THAT SHIT ALOT I GOT SOME VIDEOS FROM WHEN WE WERE ON TOUR YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK OUT GET@ME ON MYSPACE MY USERNAME IS 504FUDGE
June 14, 2009 3:07 AM
 

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June 14, 2009 7:39 AM
 

BEnzB said:

June 14, 2009 9:00 AM
 

r3m1x said:

i love when lil bloggers on 2nd rate sites go on and on about something they have NO CLUE about.

like any of you fools has a clue what Timba has or doesn't have.
like any of you has a clue what he's capable of.
like any of you have a fuckin clue what talent is...

so continue to sit here and post on shit...
you're bound to be right one of these times.

bloggers make me LOL.
June 14, 2009 9:26 AM
 

Graduate said:

She was cool. I remember when she came out, I thought she had the potential to shut all the female rappers down. If she got the right promotion, she'd be in a good place now. Best (commercial) female lyricists around that time were her and Rah Digga. Hope she comes backs strong.

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June 14, 2009 10:18 AM
 

pkfent. said:

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June 14, 2009 12:07 PM
 

pkfent. said:

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June 14, 2009 12:09 PM
 

Fink said:

Graduate said:
She was cool. I remember when she came out, I thought she had the potential to shut all the female rappers down. If she got the right promotion, she'd be in a good place now. Best (commercial) female lyricists around that time were her and Rah Digga. Hope she comes backs strong.


agreed... don't forget vita though.  she was pretty raw also.
June 14, 2009 12:24 PM
 

WhutTheeHail said:

She is still one of my faves female wise.
June 14, 2009 12:34 PM
 

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June 14, 2009 12:44 PM
 

junclassic said:

Ms. Jade I LOVED Ya Album!

I remember bangin that shit on my way to D.C. back in what 2002?

That shit was hard! Ching Ching Ching was my shit!

If you dee to collab, holla at cha boy!

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June 14, 2009 12:59 PM
 

stillmatic_01 said:

lol@ ZOemo100

what happened to timbo? what happened was he went on to sell millions of records and produce for top female artists like Nicole Scherzinger, Nelly Furtado, Britney Spears, etc.

June 14, 2009 4:02 PM
 

Logic187 said:

I bought her album when it came out, timbo (aka polo senior) messed her up by not marketing her well and the label did the same mistake..shouts to jade and her future..
June 14, 2009 6:17 PM
 

BenSwag said:

NOTE TO SELF: OWN YOUR OWN.
June 14, 2009 9:56 PM
 

WritazBlock said:

Can' wait to hear more music from Jade, she was nice back then and i'm sure she nice now!
June 14, 2009 10:32 PM
 

ANT_gramz said:

People got think just because a person is wack at rapping does not mean they dont have a hard work ethic. you only get what you put it to it. we have not heard from her in years seems like she just gave up. I seen her on youtube and she looked like she was broke. But female rap is wack to me.
June 14, 2009 11:23 PM
 

acapella said:

Yo it's funny now that if u listen to "Beam Me Up Scotty" that Jade is talkin about Scott Storch's coke habit and his fucked up life. I thought with all the hits he was makin, he was good. The nigga was on Cribs with all those fuckin cars (rented, leased, whatever), and now look at him. Kim left him, Paris stopped fuckin wit him, Timbo dissed him, Dre got rid of him, The Roots don't claim him no more, and Fat Joe ain't backin' him no more, he's fucked. It's sad to see him go bankrupt, be a coke head, and owe thousands and THOUSANDS of dollars in child support. The music biz is a mufucka...
June 15, 2009 12:33 AM
 

JIMBUCC said:

its good to c that she still connected with cannon and drama. he was her dj when he was at Clark-Atlanta
June 15, 2009 1:01 AM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

Okay I am paying attention to female produce by male artist I am finding alot in common with the females that are produce by a male. Very interesting.
June 15, 2009 8:11 AM
 

HOT97 said:

Female rappers are done..Get over it...Lil Kim and Foxy Brown did all that could have done with Hip-Hop...Every one else is finished
June 15, 2009 1:23 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

i smell a pig's hate.
June 15, 2009 2:05 PM
 

Soul Rattler said:

I had a huge crush on Ms. Jade fine ass back in the day. She had this song called "It Takes More" that was off the chain from what I remember.
June 15, 2009 2:19 PM
 

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June 15, 2009 3:12 PM
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