Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

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re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

seanedge2003 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:36:52 GMT

Hmmm.

Well I gotta say there are alot of problems with the study as well as the findings, the reasons behind the findings and even this article.

Eugenics was propagated by racially minded fools that believed you could breed out the corrupt genes that created the undesired aspects of "their" society. This was displayed not only in the actions of the Nazis in WW2 but also in Australia, Canada, France, Sweden and many other countries during the 50s. Used to breed out genetic abnormalities and disabilities as well as specific races, as was the case in Germany and Australia with the aboriginal peoples.

The theory behind it is flawed in that, as modern genetic research has found, the entirety of mankind can draw its origins to two singular roots through Mitochondria DNA as well as Y-chromosomes. This means that no matter how hard we try now, the diversity of mankind as spread any genetic traits way beyond the realms of "control". Any attempt to eradicate the Negro gene would in fact result in extinction of the human race simply because we all carry the propensity to pass the Negro gene as well as the Caucasian and Asian.

The belief that Darwinism and the theory of evolution could prove the higher status of the separate races is also flawed. Some scientists in America believe that man did not spread out from Africa but evolved independently in each part of the world. The issue here is that no matter how spread each population, the level of genetic crossover would be too minute to allow interbreeding. i.e. Australian aboriginals wouldn't be able to interbreed with Europeans if they evolved separately in their own lands. Obviously they can.
This argument also works against the "Warrior" gene and the "criminal" gene. The theories almost always are used to find excuses for human behaviour. Like, he's not guilty of murder; it's in his genes. At the end of the day humanity is predatory, against other species and within itself. Our behaviour, both "good" and "bad" are all aspects that are shown to exist in every other predatory species, from Apes to crows. They steel, they fight, they even war in order to out compete. Believing that you could breed these aspects out is quite simply a foolish endeavour.

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DetroitRep — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:46:13 GMT

Yes i would like to agree with the person above me. They are right, this is merely the science of EUGENICS. Margaret Sanger who is the mother of planned parenthood received numerous awards from adolph hitler for her work in the field. This is why there are so many black babies aborted. They used to sterilize the women but that got banned. So they had to have thier precious abortions. This whole warrior gene is complete and utter bullshit its just a convenient excuse to start mass extermination of colored youth of every continent through this false science. But in reality Eugenics is the Religion of the NEW WORLD ORDER.

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EDOGZ818 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:47:56 GMT

Wow, good article & even better #2 comment. Interesting theory, & plausible.

@ #2 : seanedge2003 :

I don't think the theory / study is to "BREED" out the gene, in so much as it is a plot to identify , those carrying the gene & eradicate them.

Kill the warriors that may defend the "SHEEPLE"

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Rosavel — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:27:21 GMT

Dag.... so thats why i go off on folks... knew i was a born warrior

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D.P. of Dunamis Records — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:55:02 GMT

Terror illustrates my error!

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D.P. of Dunamis Records — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:07:56 GMT

Mouthful

"At the end of the day humanity is predatory, against other species and within itself. Our behaviour, both "good" and "bad" are all aspects that are shown to exist in every other predatory species, from Apes to crows. They steel, they fight, they even war in order to out compete. Believing that you could breed these aspects out is quite simply a foolish endeavour. "

And to take it to the next level,

In humans that predatory nature in man is called the "sin nature" present in our species since the "fall of man".

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Kinte — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:21:36 GMT

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Die2Live — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:31:39 GMT

yeah what he said

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Hostyle70127 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:17:57 GMT

The"Warrior Gene"is bullshit.If anything to do with genetics they should do a study on genes that cause aggression.That would've been more feasable to believe but as far as why inner city youth do what they do they should actually place their selves in the same enviornment instead of trying to observe us from a safe distance through there looking glass like mice in a maze trying to make it to the cheese.People are the way they are & they do the things that they do based on circumstances majority of the time but going deeper than that,these circumstances are present due to the fact that this is how the"Powers That Be"intended things to be.Genocide,Disease,Suicide,& any other cause of death that you can name is nothing but population control in motion.Think about it.They say a person is born & a person dies every 3 seconds.Why is that?Now imagine how populated the planet would be if there were less people dying.

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CRANSTONJ — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:19:40 GMT

@seanedge 2003 you should have written the article...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGU4DWajFGM

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re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

mainwun — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:35:07 GMT

allhiphop should conduct a study of its own.
has gangsta rap help excel the black on black crime in black communities.

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forwords — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:09:55 GMT

wowwwwwwwww what is wrong with these scientists?!@?!? LOL @ the concept of a warrior gene.... That is soooo biased and based on the constructs of this society... We must free ourselves from these biased dualistic points of view. Black/white, good/evil, hero/criminal, because it is killing us all slowly due to the intense levels of stress from being trapped in our own thoughts in this physical plane. When you are always identifying things as desirable/undesirable you are putting an extremely large amount of workload on your consciousness by separating yourself from the all reaching presence of cosmic energy.

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GreasySurpreme — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:24:33 GMT

a man heart is evil continually - so as a man thinketh he is!!! It is what it is.

re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

poe — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:20:15 GMT

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Travisty4real — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:33:35 GMT

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EDOGZ818 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:53:17 GMT

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re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

EDOGZ818 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:06:18 GMT

i that Pac @ 6:10 as a swat officer?

re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

Yakn0wnow — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:12:33 GMT

@seanedge2003 said:
Hmmm.

Well I gotta say there are alot of problems with the study as well as the findings, the reasons behind the findings and even this article.

Eugenics was propagated by racially minded fools that believed you could breed out the corrupt genes that created the undesired aspects of "their" society. This was displayed not only in the actions of the Nazis in WW2 but also in Australia, Canada, France, Sweden and many other countries during the 50s. Used to breed out genetic abnormalities and disabilities as well as specific races, as was the case in Germany and Australia with the aboriginal peoples.

The theory behind it is flawed in that, as modern genetic research has found, the entirety of mankind can draw its origins to two singular roots through Mitochondria DNA as well as Y-chromosomes. This means that no matter how hard we try now, the diversity of mankind as spread any genetic traits way beyond the realms of "control". Any attempt to eradicate the Negro gene would in fact result in extinction of the human race simply because we all carry the propensity to pass the Negro gene as well as the Caucasian and Asian.

The belief that Darwinism and the theory of evolution could prove the higher status of the separate races is also flawed. Some scientists in America believe that man did not spread out from Africa but evolved independently in each part of the world. The issue here is that no matter how spread each population, the level of genetic crossover would be too minute to allow interbreeding. i.e. Australian aboriginals wouldn't be able to interbreed with Europeans if they evolved separately in their own lands. Obviously they can.
This argument also works against the "Warrior" gene and the "criminal" gene. The theories almost always are used to find excuses for human behaviour. Like, he's not guilty of murder; it's in his genes. At the end of the day humanity is predatory, against other species and within itself. Our behaviour, both "good" and "bad" are all aspects that are shown to exist in every other predatory species, from Apes to crows. They steel, they fight, they even war in order to out compete. Believing that you could breed these aspects out is quite simply a foolish endeavour.

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I agree with you that certain genes can't be bred out without nearly destroying the gentic integrity of our species as a whole. Our Human Races and Species as a whole are what they are through genetic adaptation and genetic manipulation. Like Willie Lynch's breeding projects. Now it's like they want the effects of Willie Lynch breeding experiments undone. They want the breeding of black slaves for size and strength solely for the purpose of entertainment and sports, and labor undone. Their specific breeding of slaves is documented in movies like the movie with Ken Norton "Drum" and "Mandingo". But it'll be their own undoing with the tampering into genetics beyond what is reasonable.

Peace to humanity.

re: Natural Born Killaz: Hip-Hop and the Gangsta Gene

RealAfrican — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:46:20 GMT

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RealAfrican — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:49:55 GMT

Fuck the study, Niggaz becomes violent when they're disrciminated
against, the genes have nothing to do with criminology, i was once a
good guy and when i moved to a foreign country and started going
through all fucked up racial discrimination i became worse , but i know
my genes did not evolve, fuck the study, its fake...plain lies

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D.I.C.E. — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:48:24 GMT

I had to do a report on sociopathic behavior in ma psychology class and trust me, race has nothin to do with it. As far as a "warrior gene" i never heard of that term, but genetics are a crucial factor in agressive behavior and murderous thoughts and actions. killing for hese type of ppl are is as natural as breathin'. they can do it and not think twice about it. as far as niggas joinin' gangs and shit, man, i say 1 out of every ten niggas that bangs are sociopaths, the other 9 niggas jus wanna be down, wanna prove they self, dont know no better, or jus a fuckin follwer. thas it. When i was lil i thought bangin was the coolest shit in the world, til i seen the outcome of these niggas i idolize and realized that bangin really wasn't bout shit. back in the day it use to mean somethin, but especially now in the y2k, these millineum bangers, most of these niggas is jus clown ass looser types false flaggin lil wayne type niggas.

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billy_gramz — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:59:44 GMT

Science is the "white mans" religion...pt blank... leave it up to science to prove what???? that scientists are bored with life!!! second class citizens are goin to go thru this forever...why??? bcuzz the Malcolms and Tupacs get killed. If the gangsters are so "aggressive," lets look deeper into why they are...

first off, the gangster ideology comes from Itilian culture...Mafioso culture swept the nation waaaay before ICE T and NWA...no one blames Scorcese or DeNiro for organized crime...but Snoop Dogg and Suge Knight get blamed for things that happen in real life??? The scientists didnt mention that black gangs were all started AFTER the MYSTERIOUS DEMISE OF THE BLACK PANTHERS....CRiPS didnt exist, GDs, P Stones, Vice Lords or Bloods existed until AFTER "someone" destroyed the Black Panthers. If not for Political minds being washed away, locked away, or simply discouraged, who knows??? Tookie, T. Rogers, Larry Hoover could have all been positive figures in their communities.

But, when a positive figure is murdered in such fashion as were MLK and Malcolm, many are discouraged. It goes from, "yeah lets rise up and we shall overcome," to "ok, white folks aint playin, lets get back in line." A means to control the masses that never fails...kill the head and that be that. The Politic era of the 60's was a scary time for those in control. Then came the hard drug era...the "WAR ON DRUGS" was nothin more than a hostile takeover. period. The last two martyrs were BIGGIE and TUPAC. These were two YOUNG black men killed at the point in their lives where they were ready to be square. Killed in the nick of time. Like every great scandal, there was a great cover up...

So if the WARRIOR GENE pushes young black men to want more...so be it. "niggas want more" in the words of Tupac A. Shakur... No scientist could survive a day in Watts, Compton, South Philly, Newark, or Harlem. Apparently they dont have the warrior gene...only the bullshit gene.

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mikeclassic — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:37:15 GMT

good article. there are soem sick peopel out there an dits not the gangstas; it's the scientists doing these ridiculous studies. Why do we as Americans feel that since one particular study was done in a university that it must be concretely true? Sometimes I wish I could go on national tv or something and say how it is so ironic that the term "nigger" which means ignorant is used connotatively to put down black people while the real ignorance comes from the white racists biggots. these sicentists may not necessarily be all white but appear to be foolish enough to think that "gangsta-ism" is soemthing that can be erradicated scientifically. The reason there is gangs and violence is based on wealth, not skin color or heritage. What do you think the mafia was? Poor white italians who needed money. And i'm italian if that means something to you.

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Stand_Alone — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:48:37 GMT

If the warrior gene was/is true, best believe someone is in a lab trying to mass produce it for sinister use....i would be compelled to believe that shit before someone trying to eradicate it...fuck outta here...