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How To Market (and Protect) Jay Electronica (Part I)

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 2:58 PM | 31 comments
By Cedric Muhammad
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I can count on one hand the number of times I have known I should write and build on something, yet didn’t want to. This is one of them. I haven’t even wanted to discuss this subject on the phone with my inner circle. Only three people even know what is ultimately at the root of my thinking on this.

The subject of Jay Electronica, the time of his rise, and his prospects for underground, independent and commercial success, even geopolitical impact, are that potentially serious. A hint to the wise is sufficient.

Sometimes you can hurt someone unintentionally by saying too much. And sometimes the greatest form of humility is not telling all that you know or see on a subject.

But sometimes time demands that you take a chance and risk what needs to be risked in order to accomplish a greater good.

To say that Jay Electronica, creatively, stands between two worlds and eras would not be an exaggeration, if you know the time.

Jay Electronica, the man of the hour, humble and spiritually sensitive is feeling this more deeply than anyone, I’m sure, in answer to a question of how his meteoric rise and the support and weight of it all feels, he reportedly said, “Its overwhelming, you know what I’m saying? Its overwhelming. It makes me feel good. But I gotta’ check myself too cause it makes me feel scared too. Like ‘okay I can’t be playing with these people’ because they are connecting with something — when they come to me — I feel like there is something they connected to greater that ain’t me, you know what I’m saying? So it makes me scared, too. And I don’t want to get in trouble with God. But yeah, its a good feeling, man. S**t, I can’t explain it. Its overwhelming.”

"Overwhelmed" and "scared" are two emotions most would not think the hottest rapper out would openly admit to. But Jay Electronica is not just ‘hot,’ he’s smart, and sober-minded, apparently realizing he understands there is always a price to pay for raising the dead.

"…And by the time they get their seats hot and deploy all their henchmen to come at me from the treetops…"

With that in mind I want to start an important conversation and start to take care of the important matter of fighting to properly position Jay Electronica for business and greater influence as an artist-leader-entrepreneur. The brilliant Tolu Olorunda, already has taken care of the proper, cultural interpretation of Jay Electronica in his AllHipHop.com editorial, “Jay Electronica’s Exhibit C: The End of “Genetically-Modified” Hip-Hop? (http://allhiphop.com/stories/editorial/archive/2010/01/04/22082850.aspx).

He has the potential to go places no other artist has, ever, and just in time.

Promoting A Phenomenon (The Difference Between Longing For Change And The Demand For It). The reaction to Jay Electronica is a phenomenon in and of itself. That means two things: he represents an idea whose time has come and he represents the longing of people for change (as the Honorable Elijah Muhammad stated it in Message To The Blackman, ‘As we know, wherever there is a longing or demand for a change, nature will produce that man, who will bring it about.”. There is an important difference between longing for something and demanding it and it has everything to do with whether or not Jay Electronica will be a mainstream commercial success (which is even the hope of the underground and international community). As an economist and student of mathematical theology I could go very deep into the Honorable Elijah Muhammad’s words and how they relate to the economic law of how supply produces its own demand. Maybe in a building session with the Believers and the Gods and Earths one day (smile).

What I notice in the response of a certain segment of people to Jay Electronica’s Just Blaze-produced messianic "‘Exhibit C" is either one of two things: 1) ‘Damn, I never heard nothing like this before in my life!’ 2) "This is what I’ve been waiting for (even praying for)" Neither of these sentiments in a business sense is ‘demand.’ They reflect only an emotional, cultural, or spiritual longing. And this is why it is so important for Hip-Hop fans – especially in the Northeast to realize that fawning over Jay Electronica, or romanticizing over the conscious-era of rap or wondering if New York rap is back is not a significant factor impacting the business of making Jay Electronica a massive success (which I define in the Hip-Hoppreneur ™ context as 1) his full development as an artist who sells millions of records all over the world 2) the development of a business team infrastructure that can develop the Jay Electronica brand and help make the right decisions - keeping it in alignment with his image and reputation without compromising his need for artistic freedom and personal integrity 3) his emergence as a leader at the community level, brokering power and having an impact in the United States, with influence around the world). Until certain things are put in place or fall into place around Jay Electronica, much of his popularity represents just longing. It will become demand when fans, consumers, and supporters can connect with and engage him in creative, commercial and community context.

Knowledge As Lifestyle. Jay Electronica (2010) as Public Enemy and Rakim (The 1980's)

As I’ve written before, the biggest phenoms in the history of rap were 50 Cent in 1999 and Snoop Dogg in 1993. From an artist standpoint [in terms of suddenly influencing how other artist’s rap it is Nas, Rakim and Treach, (over time, Jay-Z may be the most influential rapper ever in terms of artists imitating his style)], and in terms of consciousness (the greatest sudden influence over the thinking of the Hip-Hop community and fellow artists it is not even close – Public Enemy and Rakim in 1987-88 (over a longer period it was KRS-ONE)]. Much of the excitement over Jay Electronica is that he seems to be the most sincere and authentic conscious artist (he actually sounds like he knows and understands the Lessons and Teachings he refers to, and is not just quoting something he has memorized or read), who delivers the message with a captivating style and with street credibility (that’s what being homeless will do for you). People can’t resist natural law and universal order when presented right.

To understand it, just think of Hammer. Yes, I said MC Hammer. As much as people hated on him the basic reason for his popularity has never really been acknowledged. It was the universal appeal of dance (anthropologists bear witness that every culture in the world has it in some form). You could mock him, laugh at him, and even act like he wasn’t cool ("He ain’t from New York so don’t even play him.") but at the end of the day you sat there and had to bear witness to how good of a dancer he was. There was a longing and demand for what Hammer represented, and he took off because the business side of his team and industry was equal to the task. Knowledge too, has natural and universal appeal like that but as a friend of mine jokingly said to me in response to my explanation of Jay Electronica as the appearance of a person providing knowledge when people want it the most, due to the insecurity we all feel due to the recession, wars, and technological and demographic change; he jokingly responded, "but knowledge does not appeal to young people."  His point was clear – commercial radio and video outlets who target teenagers don’t reward the playing of music on the basis of its conscious lyrical content. But clearly, as we can see from the impact of President Obama – who to me is more Role-Model-In Chief than Commander-In-Chief – on young people, knowledge is making a comeback.

What Public Enemy and Rakim did (and uniquely too, Big Daddy Kane) was make knowledge cool – and the strong presence of the Nation of Islam and the Nation of Gods and Earths – on the street and neighborhood level showed that knowledge could actually be a lifestyle and the basis of kinship and community. Not surprisingly, both communities or Nations are embracing Jay Electronica enthusiastically, even passionately, but again, longing is not demand, in a business context, and this is not 1987.

While still very powerful, the Nation of Islam and Nation of Gods and Earths, for the time being, don’t have the same kind of intense connection with and appeal among the youth of New York City (nor in the critical region of the South), nor do they influence the radio playlists today as was the case with the local 98.7 Kiss FM and 107.5 WBLS-FM. Of course a COINTELPRO style war against the Nations have contributed to this.

The challenge for Jay Electronica (and for the Nations) is to not confuse longing with demand. Until the conscious communities rally around his music as a commercial bloc and intelligently influence DJs, Program Directors and industry executives that there is the potential for a teenage market for Jay Electronica’s music, don’t expect a cross over appeal and heavy rotation anytime soon. There are conscious professionals, and very well-meaning professionals on the inside of most of these radio stations and video outlets who would love to support this artist, but they have to be given a business cover to do so. The Heavy Hitter, Hot 97’s DJ Enuff deserves credit for taking the chance on playing ‘Exhibit C,’ but an army needs to come behind him, not just willing to applaud Jay-Electronica but write letters, make phone calls, and put up their dollars to support his career, showing the world of trade and commerce that they aren’t doing them any favors. Playing Jay Electronica’s music (and videos) is good for business is all we should expect them to care about.

Make Sure the South And The Streets Are With You Too (Not just the conscious and Northeast crowd). Although I love Mos Def and Lupe Fiasco, I have to admit I cringe a bit when I see Jay Electronica in too strong of an embrace with them before, say, 40 Glocc, Beanie Sigel, Young Jeezy, or Lil Wayne. I Grew up in Jersey, worked in Philly, and lived in Harlem before coming to Washington, D.C. 10 years ago [(by the way I’m not hearing Jay Electronica being pumped on U Street or Georgia Ave, out here, nor in the ipods of the young people I build with in D.C. – and I’m barely hearing Wale anymore (smile)]. It was one of the best things that could have happened to me because it showed me how incubated and deluded one can become from remaining in the intellectual and social comfort of the Northeast community. We have a lot of pride in that part of the country and we are the historic foundation of the Hip-Hop culture and industry but we turn the rest of the country off with our perceived arrogance, sometimes.

When I came to D.C. I would build with Brothers in the District about this regularly. The perception of New York outside of New York is something every New Yorker needs to hear, regularly. One of the worst things that I believe Jay Electronica could do would be to allow the New York and Conscious Hip-Hop community to claim him in a way that makes him appear exclusively theirs. This is easier said than done as those communities come with a following, intellectual and emotional support, and media influence. But catering to them turns off the rest of the Hip-Hop nation. This is why I’m not as excited as so many other conscious folks are by the just announced Lupe Fiasco-Jay Electronica collaboration.

Believe me, I’m touched to see Diddy, Mos Def, and Jay E on the same stage, and I know that Lupe-Jay E. collab is going to be fire, but let’s pump the brakes a bit on the New York love and start building with some Bloods and Crips (from Newark, NJ to Compton, California) and let’s get on a DJ Drama mixtape with all the hottest artists from Down South. Let’s hype up talk of a regional and national bidding war that has everyone from Snoop Dogg (the new creative Chairman of Priority Records), Birdman, Diddy, Master P., Floyd Mayweather, 50 Cent, Shady/Aftermath, Live Nation, and Scarface all wanting to sign the hottest rapper out.

Even if Jay Electronica is already under contract, let’s act like he’s not. Here’s where Diddy could be real helpful. Similar to how Cam’ron asked Dame Dash’ to regulate’ his record label negotiations for him, Jay Electronica could do the same with Diddy. It could be a nice publicity move and helps to subliminally reinforce what Puffy’s presence always does (‘the man who helped break Biggie as an artist is backing me’). We also need to see and know that the Magnolia Projects and New Orleans are supporting Jay Electronica, as much as New York is. That means the marketing of him can’t just revolve around hot beats and intellectual lyrical firepower. It has to show that real relationships exist in the ‘hood and that there is building around the phenomenon that is Jay Electronica at the street level. This can be done, but Jay Electronica has to have the right team around him, capable of guiding him as a leader as much as an artist.

Next week I’ll get into some more specifics, but it is important to establish that the talk of Jay Electronica as ‘the next one’ in Hip-Hop is a fun exercise (I remember this as it related to the multi-talented Saigon and Papoose who were set to take off before some costly mistakes and errors were made just a few years ago) but turning it into reality will require real smart business moves, and consistent actions from his supporters that move beyond words and applause. He is already a special artist, but for him to fully realize that potential in a cultural, political, and economic environment – which is what the Internet, music industry, and media are - as Just Blaze says, ‘we need something realer!’

Here’s to helping Jay Electronica achieving all he desires creatively while changing the game for the rest of us.

Cedric Muhammad is a business consultant, political strategist, and monetary economist. He is also a former GM of Wu-Tang Management and a Member of the African Union’s First Congress of African Economists. He is author of the book, The Entrepreneurial Secret (http://theEsecret.com/). His talk show, ‘The Cedric Muhammad and Black Coffee Program’ can be viewed every Wednesday from 12 to 5 PM EST (USA) at: http://www.cedricmuhammad.com/media/. He can be contacted via e-mail at: cedric(at)cmcap.com


Comments

 

NorthDollasTX said:

this is "prolly" the best piece i've read on any website since the inception of a rap blog/website!
February 2, 2010 3:32 PM
 

fanatik06 said:

Jay is the truth, just make good music man and everything else will take care of itself. He is truly a genuine mc who can connect with people of every ethnicity on different levels. I've seen him live before Exhibit C blew up, the brother's charimatic, talented and very entertaining. He's more than just a "conscious rapper".
February 2, 2010 4:26 PM
 

Maestro3000 said:

Wow Great Piece! Made me register as a member after about 6 years of being a lurker and observer. Jay is super talented and just like the author said in the article it will be important for him to get a buy in from the south on this!! The South has to embrace his movement for so many reasons. His people have to make sure he has that buy in from the South to make his support base well rounded. If his home base positions him as a front runner, his talent will carry him all the way to the top and bring Hip-Hop to a level that is has possibly never seen before. Not to say that he will not be succesful without the South, but it would mean so much more for his career in the long run. I'm Southern Born and raised, and still live in the South. It would seem weird for Jay to be embraced by a non South audience and not be embraced by the South as a whole. That would alienate a large part of a potential fan base. Not to pick on them but look at Little Brother or say 9th Wonder. They are super talented, both from North Carolina...Heads in New York know who they are, but kids in the projects in the next state in South Carolina dont have a clue as to who they are. When you look at the current climate for him to do well, he will have to have a solid anchor in the South. Say what you will about the music industry and going against the grain but it is a powerful machine, flawed as it may be I think its ready for Jay, and he may be the missing link that we need right now. Hip-Hop never has been in danger of dying, The Industry is in danger. I think he is right on time and will fall in as a leader in the new music revolution. On another note. The chatter is getting louder in the south about Jay Electronica, people are talking about him in the studios, etc. but at this point its mostly people like me who are artist, engineers, or hip-hop enthusiasts. When his name starts penetrating into the streets where people who dont even have the internet are then he will be ready to go all the way past the top if he is ready for it or not! Peace
February 2, 2010 6:02 PM
 

Napoleon Solo said:

To quote Jay Elec:
"His light is brilliant"!!!
February 2, 2010 6:22 PM
 

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bushihao said:

February 2, 2010 8:25 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

as soon as I see Jay elect onna song wid Lil weazel and all them wack sleepy nikkas..

then I wont support him at all

as soon as I see him being under diddys umbrella..NO SUPPORT

as soon as i see him throw up a Pyramid, a Baphomet..or come wid that wack jayz baphomet subliminal sheyt..

its a wrap..but as he still kicking that real shet, spittin lyrics..and repping the Blackman, im behind him

shalom jay elect!
February 2, 2010 10:10 PM
 

DuvalsFinest said:

This dudes goin to be a legend.
February 2, 2010 10:32 PM
 

PeoplePlease said:

Great article.,
February 2, 2010 11:01 PM
 

D.I.C.E. said:

I hope he blow. but as long as dumb n***as are support the rick ross's. guccia mane's, wacka flacka's....etc...i dont see it. I wish this dude much success bcuz he a real n***a and he make real music. hopefully he can change the game
February 2, 2010 11:18 PM
 

OrdelRobbe said:

I think that as long as he reps the fact that he is from the south he will get support. The south is always looked at as not having any lyrical rappers and the ones we do have are not mentioned along side new york ones. Believe it r not everyone in the south doesnt listen to gucci and would love to see someone like jay e succed. He needs to scream his hoods name on every song. Good read tho.
February 3, 2010 3:19 AM
 

TexasLegend89 said:

This man is gonna become one of the greatest of all time. Exhibit C is probably one of his least lyrical track, he has a bunch of other songs that IMO make him Top 5 of all time based on flow, knowledge, and lyrical skill. Also this preconceived notion that the South has no lyrical emcees and that we don't have a taste for amazing lyrics is pissing me off. I suggest people turn off the radio and do some research and you'll be surprised by just how many lyricists the South has.  
February 3, 2010 3:46 AM
 

LondonT said:

Jay Electronica is a good rapper but at the age of 34 he does not talking about anything that has not already been discussed by other artist in the past Rakim, Killah Priest ect.  His entire lyrical style is a rip from the 90's NY hip hop!  The reality is Jay Electronica is dope but if you listen to his radio interviews...Jay Electronica is NO Mensan or Rhodes scholar.  I thought a legend had to put in major work first...dude is taking 3 years just to put out a mixtape (ACT II)....he has been talking about ACT II since 2007 and has made every excuse for it's delay!  No hate...just good observation and no band wagon for what's hot for the moment!
February 3, 2010 5:27 AM
 

ramu said:

Listening to Exhibit C made me get the Hip-Hop face (true Hip-Hop heads know about the face).  I think Ced is on point.  Jay E has to be careful with his alliances and has to be smart enough not to be defined as a NY MC. The South MUST be his base.  He can solidify support in the Midwest and West Coast by collaborating with an artist like Tech Nine.  
February 3, 2010 10:38 AM
 

benfranc said:

i agree with londonT, jay is nice but he's not saying anything that hasnt been said in the early 90's. its just that this new generation of the 85% never heard of hip hop like how he is bringing it back and he will open the door for others to bring back that lane in hip hop..

http://www.hhse.biz
February 3, 2010 1:16 PM
 

TexasLegend89 said:

LOL he is talking about things that people have heard but not in the style and way Jay Elect does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNgYIjjyeEE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPJ5D1L0vfU
February 3, 2010 7:14 PM
 

Hoeyuno said:

Im glad this dude is getting recognition. If this dude is gonna put hip hop back on course IM IN!!
February 4, 2010 9:27 AM
 

lololol said:

He got Badu's Baby. He good $ regardless
February 4, 2010 10:17 AM
 

prodigynius said:

Major Props to The writer of this article. I thoroughly enjoyed this piece.

But if you all are interested in more pieces of this caliber check out Thacorner.net

Here is the link to their editorial section-

http://thacorner.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=48&Itemid=172
February 4, 2010 2:59 PM
 

kreem dot said:

my dude,i think j elec  is kinda hot also...but i think its kinda early to say we need to  embrace and protect him to make sure hes a successful rapper and businessman just becuase  he speaks so eliquitly about life struggles and hardships and things that nas spoke about 10 years ago like (making the devil hit his knees and say the our father)do some research......j elec is hot....but yall need to slow down..let the the dude drop an album first.....
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Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

Peace!

I been bumpin him since i heard DMT(Dimethyltryptamine) in 2007, went on a massive hunt for his material and compiled my own CD it was about maybe 18 songs deep after i was done, of course including snippets and rare collabs.

yeah the God is ill, what struck me first was the fact that he's part of my Nation(NGE) so it was kind of like a breath of fresh air especially seeing that there are MC's still around that function off of Supreme Mathematics(and Alphabets) and 120 or as the N.O.I Knowledges, Supreme Wisdom.

I almost felt like i was in the 90's again, just anticipating the next track after the next, Sun was really spitting that isht that i been needin to hear, not only to motivate me to move the pen for purpose after a breif hiatus, but i been needin to hear it because i just got tired of hearing everything else.....

He got concepts and stories that connect, the Knowledge, Humbleness/Humility, Raw Emotion, I mean he's pretty Universal compared to an era where you gotta be some type of baller/trapster or a weirdo to even get mainstream mention.....

If he sells or not ain't my concern, if he even drops a full length album or not ain't my concern, as long as the material is accessible, i'mma support it the same way i have done since that cold, lonely, evening back in mid 2007....... I been spreading the word since, to numerous random rides in the old G-Ride resulting in the automatic "dammnnn, who dat" response by the listener, way before it was cool to mention his name anywhere outside of a small circle of messageboard dwellers.....

Trust me his music is in my 'hood of Newark,NJ in small concentrations, i guess thank me and the internet for that, as well as the causual listener who refused to be programmed and misled as to whats hot being dictated from the "others" lmaoo!

I'm done, i get kinda extensive when speaking on things i enjoy, especially musically, but sittin back waitin for the follow-up piece to this, great editorial.

Peace to All!
February 7, 2010 11:33 AM
 

Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

I agree with Texas Legend...... thats kinda why i'm shocked this was the one (Exhibit C) that got him this much mainstream notoriety.....

I think it has more to do with the Beat than the Beat-Body'er...... i mean the sincerity in his bars aside, this was low-tier for him as far as wordplay and lyricism goes, then again, maybe thats why this is being played on the radio shows now??
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TexasLegend89 said:

Yea Sinistah I agree, I think his more lyrical tracks would go over people's head. DMT and Voodoo Man would leave most people scratching their heads. But it is good that he's getting exposure, maybe people will now get into his music and look up all his other work.
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tippy said:

this s**tis about timing..picking a new n***a when the masses are tired of the same old flavors of the month isn't new.I'm not knocking him at all but jay e's exhibit c isn't his best work to me,as far as lyrically.yeah the beat & all but still..and diddy the culture vulture,who after big died has been unable to produce,or reproduce,the next big thing..he ain't the answer to this shit.I'm almost willing to say a best of both worlds collabo with erykah badu & the circle of people they f**k with,[9th wonder,common,andre 3000,mos def,talib kweli,black thought,the roots & s**twhile we're at it,throw in pill [that dude is spitting] would be a better album to me..

black people have a tendency to create.then when white people [or token niggers rush to] take control of it,it becomes dilutted to the point where we don't want it anymore.then mufuckaz talk about "recreating" themselves.I feel like an artist should just keep doing the same thing they always do..them.when that has run it's course,transfer game into other areas.stop switching up to stay relevant in the rap game.yeah the rap game is like the dope game..but much like the dope game mufuckaz fail to realize this ain't no career no more,get in & get out & if you are a true hustler,you can take that hustle into other areas.keep recording until you're 90..but keep this s**tin perspective.

political rap & black conscious rap is lacking right now..I'm glad to see someone step up..but who else will?
February 8, 2010 6:57 PM
 

BUILD-A-BULL said:

AFTER GETTING KNOWLEDGE OF SELF OVER 25 YEARS AGO. I PREPARED MYSELF TO BE THE NEXT RAKIM. ANYTHING I READ THAT I THOUGHT THE MASSES SHOULD KNOW, I REWROTE IN RHYME FORM TO SPREAD THE WORD. AFTER MISSING MY CHANCE TO JOIN THE GROUP OF MY CHILDHOOD FRIEND UNIQUE ASON(ODB, WU-TANG). AND SHARING CONCEPTS AND IDEA'S OF SONG'S WITH PARTNERS OF ESTABLISHED ARTIST'S, JUST TO BE ROBBED(JAY-Z'S "D EVILS", ORIGINALLY "DEVILS"). I GAVE UP ON TRYING TO GET IN THIS BUSINESS. MOVED FROM MY NEW YORK TO THE SOUTH, AND BECAME JUST ANOTHER DEAD PLANET. AFTER HEARING "JAY E", A FEELING I HAVEN'T FELT IN OVER TWO DECADES AND LIKE Maestro3000 , I TOO FELT THE NEED TO REGISTER AND COMMENT. THIS IS A BUSINESS AND WILL ALWAYS BE. I MISS THE CYPHERS IN WASHINGTON SQUARE PARK, I MISS RIPPING THE OPEN MICS AT POETRY SESSIONS. I MISS BUILDING.

If you can KNOWLEDGE my WISDOM
you would UNDERSTAND my CULTURE,
POWER EQUAL to GOD,
Exposing eagels as vultures.
been BUILDING since I was BORN,
Foundation forever strong.
I KNOWLEDGED a CYPHER of scientist
singing songs so I add on.
February 11, 2010 9:53 AM
 

BUILD-A-BULL said:

WHITE MANS LAWS HAVE MANY FLAWS,IT'S LEGAL TO KILL IN THEIR WARS.
BUT KILL ME, FOR KILLING HE, WHO JUST KICKED DOWN MY DOORS.
TO THE GOOD COPS, MAD PROPS,99% CAN KISS MY ASS,
HIGH SCHOOL GRADS WITH GUNS AND THE POWER TO HARASS.
30 YEARS SEPARATE MISSISSIPPI BURNING FROM HIGHER LEARNING,
DUMB, DEAF AND BLIND, MOTIONLESS MINDS THE WORLD IS TURNING.
TURNING FOR THE WORST, SHOTS BURST FROM DUSK TILL DAWN.
GOD IS DIEING AS THE DEVIL TAKES ON HIS PHYSICAL FORM,
BUT BE WARNED, THIS DEVIL DON'T BURN CROSSES ON LAWNS
EAST AND WEST PLAYED LIKE CHESS, KINGS AND QUEENS NOW HORSE AND PAWNS.
EZEKIEL CHAPTER 3 IN THE 18TH VERSE,
WHEN I SAY ONTO THE WICKED THOU HAS BEEN CURSED
AND THOU SHALL SURELY DIE WITHOUT WARNING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE,
TRANSLATION "F__K YOU, YOU CHOSE TO LIVE TRIFE.  

PEACE
February 11, 2010 11:14 AM
 

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