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Hurricane Katrina: 4 Years Later, Kanye and Injustice

Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:30 PM | 44 comments
By Davey D
Monday August 29 2005 Black America got her own 9-11. She was hit with an act of terrorism in New Orleans that was just as devastating if not more than what took place when those Twin Towers were felled by planes… Yes, you read that correctly.. Most people mistakenly believe that the city of New Orleans was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina. Lets make sure folks understand this once and for all.. Much of neighboring Mississippi was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina which hit the state with its full level 5 impact.

New Orleans which was initially in the path of Hurricane Katrina was spared at the last moment… What hit New Orleans were winds that were around level 3.. The devastation that took place in New Orleans was the city’s levees broke and the entire 9th Ward and other parts of New Orleans was flooded. Did the winds break those levees? Was it the surge of rushing water?  Thats what’s been suggested. That’s what then President  George Bush told us.. Well here’s the deal.. New Orleans was hit by several acts of terrorism. It started on Monday August 29th 2009 when those levees burst open.



When Kanye West spoke his mind..."George Bush doesn't care about Black people."



We attended the International Tribunal for Hurricane Katrina and Ritain 2007 and heard 4 days worth of testimony from residents who were still displaced from their homes. This tribunal was one that was convened by former Congress woman Cynthia McKinney and a number of organizations in New Orleans. There were a panel of judges who came from all over the world who listened in shock as horror story after horror story was told of what went down in the aftermath of Katrina. The most telling testimonies came from resident after resident who talked about hearing a number of large explosions near where the levees were breached. Talk to the residents of the Lower 9th and they will tell you emphatically those levees were blown up.  After hearing so many speak and documentaries made, where its been emphatically suggested that 9-11 was an inside job, why wouldn’t the blowing up of the levee fall under the same cloud?


But if that’s hard to swallow, lets look at the testimonies that came from engineers who did independent studies. Professor Robert Bea who headed up the engineering team from UC Berkeley spoke at the Tribunal and spoke for a couple of hours where he painstakenly showed how the levees were designed in such a way that they were ‘destined to fail’.    So negligent were the designs that one could only conclude that it was deliberate-hence an act of domestic terrorism.


We heard the horric accounts of police shootings, and vigilante killings of Blacks by roving mobs of whites. Former Black Panther Malik Raheem put together a documentary where he captured white residents bragging how they had gone on pheasant hunts to shoot Blacks seeking refuge in one of the unflooded parts of the city. He estimated there were more than 200 killings. He showed bodies of Blacks who were shot in Algiers in his documentary ‘Welcome to New Orleans.’


Again, the terrorism experienced came in the aftermath of Katrina here entire communities mainly poor Blacks were run out of the city with most never to return.  I recall when San Francisco and the Bay Area was devastated by the 1989 earthquake. The entire Marina district in San Francisco home top the wealthy was destroyed. Within a year those houses were fixed. The Bay Bridge that collapsed was fixed. The 880 highway that collapsed was leveled and eventually replaced.. But the homes in West Oakland where the poor lived still had visible damage 5 years after the quake. In New Orleans 5 years after Katrina we still have the Lower 9th is disrepair and many of the folks still scattered around the country.  If thats not terrorism what is?


Something to ponder...


Mos Def - "Katrina Klap (Dollar Day)"




Comments

 

The Galboy said:

R.I.P to all those who lost their lifes in that terrible tragedy. Good Week-end to everybody!

Senegal (West Africa) repper
August 29, 2009 2:37 PM
 

D.I.C.E. said:

I would'nt doubt if this were true. our gov is fuckd up. Pay attn y'all
August 29, 2009 2:47 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

its all true. man, we prob should put some pix in here...ppl  musta forgot like it was a roy jones song...smh
August 29, 2009 3:42 PM
 

Ms_Anomalous said:

While, I have my own conspiracy theories about the corrupt nature of the government (I'm still for the government intervention that I wrote about on the last editorial, though), I think we need to be careful of such accusations or fear appearing just as ignorant of all the white Republicans claiming the death panels to be fact. I'm not convinced that the levees were "blown up." That just seems like a ridiculous claim. I do, however, believe that not enough was done to prevent the catastrophe and not enough is being done to not only rebuild the city but also to assuage the emotional, mental, physical, and financial suffering that the individuals who were affected have undergone. I do believe that there is racial and class issues behind the lack of alacrity. But as far as domestic terrorism, I don't believe that "the Katrina attack" was too far out of line with the terrorism that occurs when they put projects in areas with bad air quality, when there are no city ordinances preventing liquor stores, when the roads are messed up, when the street lights don't work, when the schools and teachers are substandard. The difference with Katrina, is we saw the effects of our lives not being worth much instantly with a mass amount of people. The other instances are things that damage the psyche, the emotional well-being, and the health of millions as well. People just not dying at one time from those issues, but they are definitely being killed by those things-- think shorter life-spans or infant mortality, or car accidents, or rapes...
August 29, 2009 3:44 PM
 

ronblack1 said:

it was gonna happen now or later either way...blown up or not..the levees were gonna break..the later it was gonna happen..the more catastrophic it was gonna be..i know this may seem cruel to say..but better then than later...although the gov't couldv'e handled it better...and for the record..Kanye's and idiot..f**k kanye...
August 29, 2009 3:59 PM
 

jmz105 said:

"Monday August 29 2005 Black America got her own 9-11"  So Blacks werent effected by 911??? Worse than 911?? WE werent warned about 911 !! And notice I said WE, as in all of us, .... so many "race" issues in this country are issues because we make it a race issue!! What about all the whites and hispanics that died during Katrina?? What a ridiculous story, I really respect this website, and I'm on it all the time, but if this is the kind of crap yall are going to start posting, I might have to look elsewhere... just my two cents ( and sense I'm sure yall want to know, I'm Mexican)

Oh nad Ronblack, agree, Kanye is an idiot!! And he loves fish d**ks!
August 29, 2009 4:58 PM
 

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August 29, 2009 4:59 PM
 

MAacadon0-4 said:

f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER










f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER














f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER


















f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER


















f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER



































f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER

















f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER















































f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER

































































f**k THE WHITE MAN IF THIS HAPPENED IN A WHITE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BROUGHT THEY ASSES TO HELP ASAP,,BLACK PEOPLE HAD TO SUFFER THE MOST...THEY THOUGHT PROJECT n***as ,,SECTION 8 LOW INCOME,,THEY WELL BE ALRIGHT ...FUCKING CRACKER




August 29, 2009 5:08 PM
 

TheUntoldLegend said:

Why doesnt Barack bring it up and do something about it?
August 29, 2009 6:05 PM
 

Infamous Markiss said:

George Bush doesn't like black people. . . But he had some "Rice" in his "Bush".
August 29, 2009 7:04 PM
 

Infamous Markiss said:

I respect Kanye he felt what he said and he said what he felt.  I bet you, bet you all turned your eyes even more to Katrina when you heard him say what he said.  
August 29, 2009 7:11 PM
 

ronblack1 said:

@Infamous

I didn't have to. I was close enought to be affected by it. And i'm sure his words did give it more attention. But i'm pretty sure he instilled an uneeded biasness on his already impressionable followers.
August 29, 2009 7:26 PM
 

Huey vs Riley said:

First: Black Power!
Second: George Bush DID NOT care about black people.
Third: Hurricane Katrina was a horrible horrible tragedy.
Fourth: This editorial is fucking retarded.
Fifth: This editorial is RE-TAR-DED.
Sixth: A lot of editorials on AHH are retarded, but
FINALLY: This is the most retarded editorial of all.

WHY?

1. That George Bush does not care about black people doesn't mean he or anybody else would mastermind some kind of evil plot to murder any.

2. WHAT, I repeat WHAT would ANYONE have to gain. Thats gotta be the first question before you accuse anybody... WHAT would they gain?

3. WHAT could they lose? Its the same thing with the 9/11 Inside job shit... you know what kinda pandemonium would break out if it was uncovered that it was on purpose? You think anyone would be willing to take that risk?

4. THIS s**tIS FUCKING RETARDED.

5. Eli Porter isnt half as retarded as this editorial.

6. Thank you.
August 29, 2009 10:01 PM
 

uptownblood said:

@ms. anomalous

first i have to ask you are u from new orleans, if not i would understand why you think those levees werent blown when some were anjd the others failed. the levees that were blown were blown to save a major part of jefferson parish who,s population is dramatically populated by white people

@jmz105

i see you are not fron new orleans this is about new orleans and our population of hispanics where basically non existent and new orleans was 80% black before katrina so it wasnt manywhite people that died and katrina was 45 times worse den 9 11 go look it up u seem a little ignorant to me
August 29, 2009 10:15 PM
 

BeatsByNonsense said:

If you think about it though...The levees were gonna break either way so if they did blow them up they had a choice of letting them break on their own or picking where they should break.  If you let the levees break and flood the downtown area the city is done completely because thats where the cities tourism and money comes from.  So the entire city, not just the projects, would have been finished.  If you blow them up and flood the projects which are government owned to begin with then you save the district that brings money into the city but you destroy the area where the cities poor lived.  

Its fucked up any way you look at it because our society got us up to that point to begin with.  If we had been building a socity based on the wealth and happiness of every single human then this whole Hurrican Katrina mess would have been a non issue because everybody would have been working hand in hand to help out.  Im 99 percent sure the government blew the levees up to save the downtown area and oil refinery plants located around New Orleans...But why has our society let the seperation between rich and poor become so great to where we have entire sections of people who cant move ahead?  

http://www.myspace.com/beatsbynonsense
August 29, 2009 10:23 PM
 

BeatsByNonsense said:

@ MAacadon0-4

You do know a white man invented the internet and computer your using to type those same words right?  So if you really felt that way you would refuse to use these same cracker inventions.  That racist mentality gets nobody anywhere.  The people in charge want the people on the bottom to keep bickering over meaningless s**tlike race and material possessions so they can keep moving ahead.

http://www.myspace.com/beatsbynonsense
August 29, 2009 10:35 PM
 

YeagerX said:

Well i spoke on this before an some got mad at the fact that i went hard on Bush an others. However, im from New orleans i wasnt on the roof an shyt but i lost alot. Friends, property, Job, money, comfort zone, an everything. Now that, thats say i Trutly know that the levees were blown an i would have had prove. But, the black water gang(yes blackwater do ya homework) that was let in by our government stopped us an chased us(my cousin an i) from the area.
              When the levee broke along paris ave. in the 7th ward they had just been rebuilt one year prior to katrina. If one were to go there now one can see that only one side of the levee broke an the rest of it perfectly intacted. Come see it for yourself. Also, if it just failed like they say it did my allow black Water to secure this small area taking property an chasing anyone taking pictures,videos, or samples from the area?
                                       Now i won't let black people off the hook on this one either. Mainly because they were warned an they took it to lightly and allowed their lives to be in the hands of people who dont value all lives equally. Allowing small babies, and elderly people to go through that. many abandoning family members in exchange for personal material items!!!!!! An still today most havent learned anything from this other than next time i'll leave. other than that nothing, all the schools are going charter which means many students get rejected, especially special ed. students.Even if they stay next door. the Only one new public school built an of course its chapter. All other schools are trailers and old buildings with a lil paint an poor maintence. Many not fit of rats to attend let alone children, despite millions and millions no one cares tho so we cant always blame other for us being i dont have the words to explain. if you want more respond i'll post more true facts!!! our major hospital is still closed an lies persist
August 29, 2009 10:57 PM
 

YeagerX said:

Well i spoke on this before an some got mad at the fact that i went hard on Bush an others. However, im from New orleans i wasnt on the roof an shyt but i lost alot. Friends, property, Job, money, comfort zone, an everything. Now that, thats say i Trutly know that the levees were blown an i would have had prove. But, the black water gang(yes blackwater do ya homework) that was let in by our government stopped us an chased us(my cousin an i) from the area.
              When the levee broke along paris ave. in the 7th ward they had just been rebuilt one year prior to katrina. If one were to go there now one can see that only one side of the levee broke an the rest of it perfectly intacted. Come see it for yourself. Also, if it just failed like they say it did my allow black Water to secure this small area taking property an chasing anyone taking pictures,videos, or samples from the area?
                                       Now i won't let black people off the hook on this one either. Mainly because they were warned an they took it to lightly and allowed their lives to be in the hands of people who dont value all lives equally. Allowing small babies, and elderly people to go through that. many abandoning family members in exchange for personal material items!!!!!! An still today most havent learned anything from this other than next time i'll leave. other than that nothing, all the schools are going charter which means many students get rejected, especially special ed. students.Even if they stay next door. the Only one new public school built an of course its chapter. All other schools are trailers and old buildings with a lil paint an poor maintence. Many not fit of rats to attend let alone children, despite millions and millions no one cares tho so we cant always blame other for us being i dont have the words to explain. if you want more respond i'll post more true facts!!! our major hospital is still closed an lies persist
August 29, 2009 10:58 PM
 

Ms_Anomalous said:

I'm not from New Orleans... hell, at the end of the day, anything possible. I guess I'll have to do some research... but still, it's hard to fathom that such a thing would be done. I hope it isn't true.
August 29, 2009 11:10 PM
 

BeatsByNonsense said:

@ ms_anomalous

I dont doubt that the government would do that.  I have family members that have worked at high levels of government and seen lots of real corrupt things going on.  I havent voted once in my life due to the stuff that those family members have told me because I know that no democrat or republican is trying to help the average person.  But I still live my life to the best way I can and try to help those around me when I can.  You cant stop the powers that are in charge but you can change ur own surroundings for the better.

http://www.myspace.com/beatsbynonsense
August 29, 2009 11:23 PM
 

BLuOvrGry said:

Wow, this makes me never want to buy a rap cd ever again.  Nor come to this website again.  Katrina was headed to New Orleans/Texas/Miss area for FOUR DAYS.  If you didn't want to be killed, you left like a normal HUMAN.  The worst part about it is that even the educated niggers (ones who can write and read) think that our government had something to do with a NATURAL disaster.  Do yall fucking stupid niggers know how WEATHER works?  When bad weather (Hurricane - Category 5) is heading towards your city, YOU LEAVE.  Or if you're a ****  you stay and then blame it on the white man.  Have yall ever read a science book?  I officially will never by a rap CD ever again.  I am going to sabotage this website with my comments now too.  I am going to lead a boycott against this stupid fucking ****  author. I hope the author of this article dies in a car accident.  I hope your mom is murdered by a drifter.  I would take your entire family to a field and kill them all slowly, making them watch eachother die.  You think Bush wanted all yall dirty ass violent stanky ass niggers coming to our state?  Kanye West will die soon i hope.  I hope the next bullet kills Michelle Obama.  I hope Barack has to hold his wife's head like Jackie held John's.  Why havent yall talked about how Obama's new FCC czar wants to make all forms of media owned by the govt?  Why don't yall talk about how 95% of blacks who voted, voted for Obama, even though 90% of them COULD NOT EVEN OPPOSE ONE OF JOHN MCCAIN'S POSITIONS ON ANYTHING?>!  Why do you think OBAMA was chosen to be the Democratic nominee?  Its a new form of slavery -- once again using yall stupid niggers as pawns.  What happened in our last election is a new form of slavery.  CAUSE NONE OF YALL niggers KNOW WHAT THE GUY YALL VOTED FOR REALLY WANTS TO DO!!!!!  this is extremely scary to anyone who is remotely educated.  MARK MY WORDS we are entering a new form of government far from democracy.  Its not socialism.  Its not communism.  Its a combination of both that will leave us with THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN EVERY ASPECT of our lives.  The funny thing is - yall dont even trust the govt to begin with!!!!!!  SO YOU WANT THE THING YALL DONT TRUST, the govt, IN YOUR LIVES 10000% more?  OBAMA IS A piece of A VERY SCARY GAME.  THE ONLY REASON HE IS BLACK IS TO WIN.  The only reason our president is black was to get more votes.  All it is going to take is one scary moment - terrorist attack - and we will all be controlled like nazi germany.  Mark my words.  
August 30, 2009 12:18 AM
 

BeatsByNonsense said:

@ BLuOvrGry

Ur an idiot...From the first 2 sentences you could tell you had no business on a hip hop site to begin with.  You took this article and tried to rationalize ur own racist ramblings....None of what you said made sense and you contradicted urself throughout all of that mess.  If it only took this article to make you hate "niggers" aka black people then you probably already did.  You should get out and explore the world a little more.  

http://www.myspace.com/beatsbynonsense
August 30, 2009 12:50 AM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

I think this one can be blamed on the French.

LMAO at the Mos Def video with George Bush and d**k Cheney vs Yoda.
August 30, 2009 1:03 AM
 

ronblack1 said:

New Orleans and most of south louisiana was pretty much doomed the minute they started building those levees..this was bound to happen.
August 30, 2009 1:08 AM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

Yo...AHH just censored d**k Cheney's name. For real, watch this: f**k s**tcunt ass b***h d**k cheney... lmao
August 30, 2009 1:09 AM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

Damn, I sound like an insensitive a**hole. RIP to all the folks in N.O.
It was a sad time for the country but I hope we've learned from the tragedy to not build cities under the sea level and to leave when they tell you a catagory five is coming right for you.

I entertained the idea of a government conspiracy to displace people out of this region due to its oil reserves but that's kinda crazy. Look up HAARP and Chemtrails if you want to get an idea of how weather is manipulated.
August 30, 2009 2:50 AM
 

Blakka1 said:

1st off, y'all beatin down da wrong path! Da name of da Hurricane was FEMA. 2nd of all, the levies was blown by da Army Corp of Engineers who were killed rite afta 2 protect da guilty. 3rd of all, Da N.O has alwayz been known as a SOUTHERN n***a STRONGHOLD even b4 slavery was abolished & this storm was seeded wit silver iodide 2 do wat it did. This storm was nuttin but a massiv LAND GRAB in a most strategic place(read militarily). Da levies blew early in da morn, da NEXT DAY when most were asleep & da storm already had blown over. Y is it so hard 2 bleev dat the same people who had U in chains less tha ya greatgrampa's time ago wouldn't or coudn't concoct such a DEVIOUS PLAN? Slowly but surely, THEY r sealin up da country 4 ya convenient CONTAIMENT while gettin rid of certain TYPE of n***as in the process as Da N.O is mos def a city fulla guns & REAL n***as who don't play. A stat came out early this yr dat says dat 4 da 1st time, Da N.O is now more than 1/2 white in jus 4 yrs. They lullin us 2 sleep slowy as they GRAB land & 4 proof positives, look @ wat THEY did 2 da Blak Farmers jus a few yrs ago. Y'all betta start comin up wit options but do they hear me tho........It aint no CONSPIRACY, it's part of THEY PLAN like Global 2000 & all of this s**tis DEPOPULATION as dem Crakkkaz can't reproduce like us & so THEY gotta control OUR #'s. Y'all non-BELIEVING n***as think slavery was 1 bad week 4 Blak Folk & I bet if U was in dat s**t1 day, U would kno wat it REALLY DO. THEY aint change, THEY jus changed the GAME & most of us thinkin all dat KKKhristian stuff!!! SMH! The NWO it been in effect. Go get a late pass, STEP!!!!!!!!!!
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August 30, 2009 9:44 AM
 

ronblack1 said:

@Blakka

The most retarded thing i ever heard. Like somebody said earlier, "the first question you gotta ask yourself about all these gov't conspiracies is WHY? what did they have to gain?" You honestly believe the US Gov't killed all those people, destroyed all that property, just to control oil and commerce on land they already owned. But i wasn't enough rite. They had to kill all the black folk first rite?. f**k about all the black ppl in places like NY, LA, ATL, MIA. Instead they'd kill all the black people in shitty ass NO.

Here's why NO was doomed way before any of us was born.

Before they builth the levees, The Mississippi River used to go through a period of seasonal flooding when snow from the midwest would melt. As a result of that. The River would flood between the areas of LA and MS. along with that water came the residual silt that would keep that area built up. so although it flooded horribly, the land would be fresh with new, fertile soil every flood season(i wanna say end of spring, beginning summer maybe.) some retards apparently thought it would be a good idea to put the levees up, probably with an attitude of "i know it's a bad idea, but we'll deal with bridge when it's time to cross it"

With the levees built, there is no more flooding. All that silt is just being poored out into the Gulf of Mexico. New Orleans is basiclly a soup bowl that  gets deeper and deeper every year. Yall may not have known that. But the ppl in NO knew that because it's taught in schools down there. What did ppl think was gonna happen? How else was this gonna end? Innevitable. Oh and to the guy above me "Real n***as+guns=criminals" Trust me dude. The gov't got larger problems and bigger agendas then wut the retards in your neighborhood are killing each other for. If you think about it..woulda been cheaper to let you guys kill each other off rather than spend billions to get rid of you...if that was the agend...
August 30, 2009 10:28 AM
 

Gunot_killa said:

bulls**t!!!!
August 30, 2009 2:27 PM
 

baynig4sho said:

@  
Ms_Anomalous

are you aware that on september 9th 1965 a Hurricane named betsy hit new orleans?

now this is a fact.during this historic storm the levees were intentionally blown open by sticks of dynamite so the rich, more well to do areas would be spared.unfortunately 81 people lost their lives because they wanted to protect rich white people and the tourist attractions.

so i ask you if it can happen once dont you believe it was possible to happen again in the same city?

you have to understand that people die every day over money.if the people who make decisions in new orleans (rich white business owners) had to choose between their most reliable source of capitol (tourist attractions) and their poor black community which do you think they would choose?doesnt seem so unrealistic now does it?

s**tit seems unrealistic to me that it would take 5 days to get dying,starving,drowning people some relief.but hey thats "our" government.
August 30, 2009 6:07 PM
 

baynig4sho said:

@  
jmz105

it still is about race and i wish people like you would stop denying that.how many whites and hispanics died during katrina?you dont know do you.i dont either but i do remember watching the katrina tragedy on tv.dont you? did you see a bunch of whites and mexicans?no?WELL WHO DID YOU SEE?

oh and by the way if your poor your black.
August 30, 2009 6:18 PM
 

baynig4sho said:

@
ronblack1

you know honestly i dont think they planed in advance to kill black people in n.o. but they didnt do anything to save them either and thats just as bad.

and you know man im not some wild eyed conspiracy theorist but im not blind and i do know what i see with my own eyes.what i seen was people on tv begging for help for days on end.now i live in california and i could have drove to new orleans and back by the time "our" government got there to help.now how the f**k do you explain that?

 
August 30, 2009 6:52 PM
 

baynig4sho said:

@
BLuOvrGry

YOUR NOT EVEN WORTH A COMMENT.DO US ALL A FAVOR GO OUTSIDE AND GET SOME FRESH AIR AND THEN RUN HEAD FIRST INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC.

August 30, 2009 7:01 PM
 

ronblack1 said:

@ baynig4sho

one simple answer. POOR PLANNING & EXECUTION. Not intentionally done by the president or any other gov't official for that matter. Was it bulls**t? Yes!! But honestly, think about it. Who couldv;e expected something of that magnitude to happen. How can you plan for something that was theoretically not supposed to happen. and i know somebody is gonna bring this up, " wudabout the tsunami?" that happened somewhere on the other side the planet. Yea we were there. But all we provided was food, water, and medical supplies. We didn't handle the logistical nightmare of moving a whole city of stubborn citizens who shouldv'e left amidst the warning of a CAT 5 hurricane. Not only do you have to figure out a way to move them, you have to shelter them, protect them, and feed them indefinately until it's safe for them to go back. Then when they're back, you have to do the same.

A good example is 9/11. I'm pretty sure they rehearsed for every possible scenario. Scenarios based on attacks from a foreign enemy. Yea the enemy was foreign. But who woulda expected the mofos to hijack planes and crash them into our country's symbol of pride and power. Nobody.

It's easy to coach from the stands. But when you sittin in that chair and you gotta make the decisions, It's a whole different ball game. Not saying the gov't can't do know wrong. Cuz they sure as hell do. And it's every citizen's God given and civil right to criticise and keep em in check. But don't argue and make assumptions if you don't even fully understand the matter at hand. People are impressionable. You can be totally full of shit, but if you sound like you know wut you are talkin bout, people are gonna take wut you say as the truth (Hitler tricked a whole county into slaughtering a whole people.) Disinformation and misinformation are more powerful than any gun or sword. do ya research fam.
August 30, 2009 7:18 PM
 

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baynig4sho said:

@ronblack

i have researched this.

the one thing im discovering is when people cant explain something they make excuses.when the tsunami happened we had people helping within 2 days from america and that tragedy didnt even happen in america.how come they couldnt get to no?

we do humanitarian efforts all around the world like droping food and supplies in times of WAR so how come this didnt happen for the people of new orleans?i mean come on there was media coverage on the ground the whole time so you tellin me that cbs is more competant than "our" own government?you make it seem like the government dropped the ball on this one but my arguement is they never picked up the ball in the first place.

5 days without any relief come on dog not even our government is that stupid.youve gotta realize that efforts to help people would have cost the government alot of money at a time when we were already spending billions on a war.i personally believe it just wasnt worth it to them.of course i could be wrong but my common sence tells me otherwise.

August 30, 2009 8:36 PM
 

ronblack1 said:

@baynig

How you gonna compare CBS who can easily put a reporter on plane or boat with no relief wut so ever to a government sponsored relief effort that involves coordination betweens dozens of agencies. Rule#1: Common sense does not work in Gov't and Politics. I'm tellin you this from experience. It takes alotta signatures and approvals  and people to make s**thappen federal wise. Could it be stream lined yes. But it ain't. It's the reality of the matter. Supplies, Food, and Water don't just appear outta thin air. Believe it or not. The gov't gotta pay for that shit. and it ain't just lyin around. and it ain't cheap neither. And i don't know about you. But i would assess the security situation there before i just run in to start givin out shit. After that. You gotta figure out how much of wut do you need. Next, coordinate how you gonna get it there, who's gonna bring it? Nobody works for free. Obviously the military can't handle the whole operation so then you gotta outsource to civilians. so tell me. How long would it take you to figure that out?

As far as the humanitarian efforts. Those been goin on for years. It took time get those rite. They weren't perfect in the beginning. Trust me. I'm telling you this from experience. And everybody keep blaming the Federal Gov't(which they are partly to blame). But everybody forget that LA as a state and New Orleans as a city failed those citizens also. and the citizens failed themselves also for stayin.

Me personally. I would never rely on the Gov't to do s**tfor me if i can  do it myself. Meaning i woulda evacuated. But that's just me. I was still in High School when that happened. And my mom had the same stubborness. We got it bad. But we found out about NO a few days after it happened..i bet she'll never stay for another one.

And i am by no means insulting your intelligence bro. You seem like a well informed dude. I'm just saying i'm in conflict with view of it.
August 30, 2009 9:25 PM
 

TheUntoldLegend said:

Can I just say again, why isnt Obama doing anything about it, if its still bad.  And also why sit here and argue about what race is doing what when you could be spending this time trying to do something about it.  Who gives a f**k about what white people did or whatever, all your doing is distracting yourself from the real problem and that is the devistation thats still there that you could be doing something about.  WOW some people are just so dam ignorant, all they do is sit there and argue instead of actually doing something.  If some one was drowning and a white guy and a black guy are standing there, are they gonna sit there and argue about who pushed him in or are you gonna go help the drowning dude?  Dam, start thinking before you speak.
August 30, 2009 10:27 PM
 

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August 31, 2009 7:21 AM
 

prodigynius said:

Off topic but still extremely important. Here is an article on an incident involving a video that recently surfaced that shows a black man callously beaten and potentially left for dead in a karate dojo 25 years ago by a black belt and former marine. The article is void of any unsubstantiated inferences, speculations or conjectures. It gives only the KNOWN facts of the incident, STATES some of the theories circulating, and DISPROVES some of the theories that hold no water i.e. that KFG claimed he was taught by Jesus and therefore was mentally challenged. Here is the link-



http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2124395/updates_on_video_showing_bobby_blythe.html?cat=9
September 1, 2009 5:53 PM
 

NolaRefugee86 said:

Im from Algiers, and even though i wasnt at home during the hurricane because i was in Iraq (ironic, i know), the storm hit on my birthday and it hit my family hard. I dont know about all the conspiracy theory stuff, and i cant blame nobody specifically for the damage that was done cuz the levees been fucked up for some years now. I DO KNOW that its been 4 years now and its still whole communities there in the 9th Ward and other parrishes that aint get the media coverage that are still left in rubble. Theres no excuse for that.  We fightin a war down there fareal
September 4, 2009 10:15 AM
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