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THE DAY REPORT: The Misconceptions Of Rap As A BUSINESS 
Published Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:45 PM
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By, Wendy Day (www.Rap-Coalition.com)

What is it about the rap music industry that makes people standing on the sidelines assume they understand how it works?  Does it look easy from the outside looking in?  Are folks so blinded by watching BET and reading a couple of rap magazines that they actually think they understand the ins and outs enough to pursue this shit as a career?

 

I agree that it’s easier to get into this industry than it is to play professional ball, or be a rocket scientist for NASA (all that pesky schooling), or to be a brain surgeon (again, more years of schooling and actual experience operating on brains).  But it’s not so easy that someone can wake up tomorrow fresh off a job at Burger King, and say “I want to be a rap star,” or my personal favorite: “I am going to manage my boy Bo-Bo’s rap career.”

 

If it was as easy as going to Kinko’s and pressing up some business cards, don’t you think EVERYONE would be doing that?  Oh wait!  They are!!

 

One of the saddest days of my life was the day I realized that Hip-Hop was no longer a culture, no longer a lifestyle choice, but a business.  And a very big business it was.  People from outside of the culture were co-opting it and making money from it.  I knew that this also meant that the day it no longer was profitable, they’d move on like the fair weather friends they were (we’re almost there, by the way).  Lyor Cohen wasn’t tagging subway cars, and his pants weren’t sagging, but his decisions controlled the movement of rap music far more than anyone whose pants did sag.  There was a trade off though.  For the first time in my lifetime, I was able to see young people of color get good paying jobs in the music business.  Some even had perceived power.   I was able to see artists make money for themselves and feed their families and create their own companies based on their level of fame.  And this was a good thing.  This was the 90s.

 

Then 2000 hit and reality shows were everywhere.  Billionaire heiresses became famous for doing nothing but sleeping around and getting high or drunk.  The behavior of an Old Dirty Bastard type of character was no longer seen as bizarre or pushing the envelope.  Hell, Flavor Flav had his own TV show doing that shit in his sleep!

 

But somehow the mindset was born in all of this that getting into the music industry is easy.  No training, no experience, no relationships….just POOF!  I’m a manager!  Or POOF!  I own a record label.  Artists seemingly believe it comes down to “getting discovered” by someone at a record label, but in the 16 years that I have been doing this, I can’t think of one scenario where that was the case.  Who is telling these kids from OH and TX and Cali that they can just mail in a demo to a major record label in NYC and they will get offered a deal?  That has NEVER, EVER, EVER happened!!  The labels don’t even listen to unsolicited material.  They send it back unopened.  There’s even a question in my mind if most of the A and Rs have the time to listen to the stuff they request…

 

I get hundreds of emails from wanna-be artists each week asking me to get them a record deal.  They have no idea what they are asking me, and they have no idea why they are asking me, but somehow I am a perceived gatekeeper stopping or allowing them to live their dreams.  A dream they made no effort to research or learn about.  I also get a ton of emails from people complaining that their city has more talent than Atlanta, or Miami, or Houston, or Dallas, or whatever city is the flavor of the minute in the music industry.  The PERCEPTION is that the labels get together and decide which city or town will be next, and then they all go there.  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha  Sorry to laugh, but that is so funny to me.  These industry folks can’t even decide which artist on their own rosters to put out next and here are these kids in, say, Buffalo NY thinking they are getting passed over for their only shot at music success.

 

The reason certain cities develop their own industry is out of frustration.  When enough talent in one place (artists, producers, DJs, etc)—Atlanta, for example, gets frustrated enough to say “Fuck the industry!” and start doing things on their own separate from the industry, and when they begin to make a little noise on their own, the industry comes running to see what’s going on.  If the industry feels they can make money off of a new movement, they arrive in droves to co-opt that movement, signing anyone they can get their hands on at the price they are willing to spend.  If they don’t think it will lead to massive national sales, they leave as quickly as they came (see the Hyphy Movement in the Bay Area for proof of this phenomenon).

 

Rap music is a business.  It stopped being just an artform, very sadly, in the 90s.  The view of the music industry "putting on forgotten cities" is very wrong.  An artist, or a city, has to create its own movement to attract the industry.   IF the established industry thinks it can pimp it and make some money, it’s a done deal.

 

Being a non-sports person, I am going to try to make a basketball analogy, so bear with me.  I went to a Knick's game in NYC a few years ago.  In watching the team play (not so well), I decided that I could do that better than anyone on that team could.  I had always loved basketball, so I went home and practiced for years.  Every waking moment, I practiced.  But the Knicks never called me to come play with them.  I live in Atlanta, where I think very few ball players are from (it doesn’t matter if there are a lot of ball players from here or not, no one I know is getting put on by the NBA).  We have a ton of talented ball players here just in my neighborhood alone—yet, the Knicks never called me.  I practiced every day and knew I was better than anyone on that whole team.  I wrote letter after letter to the Knicks telling them to come to Atlanta and watch players play ball, especially me.  I even offered to fly some team scouts in at my own expense.  No one came.  Looks like Atlanta is just a forgotten city in basketball because they didn’t come when I called.
 

Finally, out of annoyance, I went back to a Knicks game, and when the ball came out of bounds over near where I was sitting, I got out of my floor seats and threw the ball and scored a basket—all net!  A very impressive shot.  When folks came over to me, I explained that I was a great player and deserved to be on the Knicks.  But they laughed at me and were angry that I interrupted the game.
 

What did I do wrong?  Why didn't they sign me up on the spot?  Was it because I didn't take the time to learn the BUSINESS of basketball?  It was my favorite sport, but once it left the b-ball courts in my town, it became a business when the Knicks name was attached to it.  I didn't follow protocol--learning the sport, playing through school, playing through college and standing out, and getting drafted to a team (one in a million shot).  I just assumed it was about throwing the ball through the hoop because of my love of the sport.  And I assumed if they saw me do it well, that was all that mattered.

 
Realizing this is a half-assed analogy, I hope you understand what I am trying to say.  If you want to do this for a living, learn the rules and protocol.  It's NOT just about grabbing a mic or about a scout from a label stumbling into any city outside of NYC to discover talent and putting your city on the map.  That couldn't be farther from reality....  And how sad is it that we all understand how the business of basketball works, but we think we can mail a demo to someone at a record label and become the next major superstar!!


Comments

 

feelitall said:

wendy spittin true knowledge see ya in Tunica!
September 10, 2008 6:15 PM
 

getmoney2 said:

The lil wayne explains. how not to get jacked by your label

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September 10, 2008 6:24 PM
 

NewWest-310 said:

Very good read. Thank you.

I agree that a lot of people assume because they're talented that they DESERVE a chance at stardom. Growing up im sure there were a lot of people who were more "talented" than Jordan, but he worked hard, never gave up and accomplished his dream. While those other, more "talented" players, assumed because they were so good that they didnt have to work hard to get into college and later the NBA. And what ends up happening is they get bitter and the game passes them by.

Yeah you might be a better rapper than Young Jeezy, Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, whoever - but what are you doing to compete on their level?

Thanks again for the read, but maybe stay away from Basketball analogies. (not that mine is much better, lol)

September 10, 2008 6:32 PM
 

BigChris502 said:

Honestly.....I think that this article fucks up rap even further. Yea I do think the fact that she is actually trying to tell people to learn about the business is one thing BUT...Why not encourage people to rap or make music 4 the love of the music? Realistically an artist might not be the smartest business wise, but if he is really ALL about his craft, b4 he signs himself away 4 nuttin he will do the proper research and knows when someone is trying to fuck him over, and pay him virtually NOTHING for his craft. Its these cats (no i wont say any names) that sign a major contract for 300,000 dollars and then bitch and moan when they dont sell, and they get dropped. But i GUARENTEE you the cats that sign to indie labels arent getting fucked. They might not be selling millions of records BUT, they value there craft and MOST of them take there music seriously and value it even if it isnt wat u all want it 2 be i.e. Black Ice, Joell Ortiz, Lil Boosie (say wat u want). So start teaching caring 4 your craft other than the weak ass music business cuz if your really truly about your craft then u wont get fucked up in the music game, cuz u will be able 2 spot out when sum1 is tryna fuck u over.
September 10, 2008 6:33 PM
 

Harlem G.O.D. said:

Wendy kept it 100
September 10, 2008 6:34 PM
 

RymeSkemeKlepTo said:

dam thats tru. i never thought about the sheer quantity of emails that major record labels must get from herbs n other ignorant hopefuls thinkin they're "next to blow"    haha

u shoulda seen the indian guy on Mtv's made or true life where he's an aspiring rap superstar
September 10, 2008 6:44 PM
 

DJ TEKNISION said:

EVERYONE THINKS ONCE YOU GET INTO THE INDUSTRY YOU ARE PAID..WRONG!!!  MORE THAN HALF THESE RAPPERS ARE BROKE AS HELL.  EVERYTHING YOU SEE IS RENTED, NOTHING IS REAL IT'S JUST A IMAGE THEY PORTRAY TO YOU.  SO YOU THE BLIND CONSUMER COULD EAT UP THE BS. THERE ARE NO MEDICAL BENEFITS, NO DENTAL, NO PENSION,  SO WHEN MOST OF THESE DUMB ASSES GO OUT AND SPEND THE LITTLE MONEY THEY HAVE ON USELESS SHIT, LIKE JEWELRY, UGLY ASS CARS WITH RIMS THAT ARE TOO BIG FOR THEM AND EXPENSIVE NAME BRAND CLOTHES THAT WILL BE OUT OF STYLE IN A YEAR, THEN YOU WILL SEE THEM ON VH1 WHERE ARE THEY NOW SHOW. BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO MORE MONEY!!

IT'S A CYCLE THAT WON'T STOP.  THERE IS NO MONEY IN CD SALES THE RAPPER MAKE THERE MONEY ON LIVE SHOWS, THAT'S WHY GROUPS LIKE THE ROOTS CAN STILL EAT BECAUSE EVERYWHERE THEY PLAY IT'S A SELLOUT, YOU THINK THEY CARE ABOUT HOW LEFT JAM IS SHITTIN ON QUALITY ARTISTS LIKE THEM.  I THINK NOT. LET THIS BE A LESSON TO YOU, TRY GOING TO SCHOOL TO USE YOUR EDUCATION AS A BACK UP, SO YOU WON'T END UP ON VH1.BECAUSE THE ODDS OF YOU REALLY MAKING IT WITHOUT SELLING YOUR ASS LIKE A WHORE IS REAL SLIM!!!

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September 10, 2008 6:44 PM
 

SouthEnd Jamal! said:

This my favorite part**********

The reason certain cities develop their own industry is out of frustration.  When enough talent in one place (artists, producers, DJs, etc)—Atlanta, for example, gets frustrated enough to say “Fuck the industry!” and start doing things on their own separate from the industry, and when they begin to make a little noise on their own, the industry comes running to see what’s going on.  If the industry feels they can make money off of a new movement, they arrive in droves to co-opt that movement, signing anyone they can get their hands on at the price they are willing to spend.  If they don’t think it will lead to massive national sales, they leave as quickly as they came (see the Hyphy Movement in the Bay Area for proof of this phenomenon).



Rap music is a business.  It stopped being just an artform, very sadly, in the 90s.  The view of the music industry "putting on forgotten cities" is very wrong.  An artist, or a city, has to create its own movement to attract the industry.   IF the established industry thinks it can pimp it and make some money, it’s a done deal.

********This is real and what i attempt to let people know when im in different cities. It may sound hard or unlikely to happen but if thats your thought process than your already done
September 10, 2008 6:50 PM
 

PhuckDatt said:

wendy knows her shit. always did since the rap coalition @ ascap. who remembers dat?
September 10, 2008 6:55 PM
 

PhuckDatt said:

wendy knows her shit. always did since the rap coalition @ ascap. who remembers dat?
September 10, 2008 6:55 PM
 

Mr. Wrecc said:

I dig the commentary for sure...
September 10, 2008 7:08 PM
 

raynestizzy said:

I didnt even read the article YET, imma print it out and take it with me but I already KNOW that if its WENDY DAY telling you something ITS REAL AND ITS SERIOUS! MUCH RESPECT TO THIS WOMAN from RAYNE STORM!


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September 10, 2008 7:08 PM
 

Duckman XL said:

The problem is, that most low-income black people want to find a get-rich-quick scheme that will get them riches and an abnormal amount of sex from another living thing. They be the ones that scream in the classrooms, get sent to the principal, and get suspended/expelled a lot, but they are always known by the popular kids at school. Its sad that some black people would rather spend lots of time making shitty music with shitty topic matter and use their shitty money to buy shitty chains when they could have gone to a public college and gotten a degree and made something out of themselves. They all want to be the next Camron or Jim Jones or jeezy or Jay-Z while they cannot make themselves slightly talented or even marketable. Why else you see a broke, 47 year old rapper who is beefing with another broke rapper named Gillie the Kid in the Streets of Philly? Why else you see people like Manio, a man over 30, dress up like a high schooler, thinking that he is back in 1996 and still repping the ignorant shit in Brooklyn? Why else you see these Goon/Coon rappers from Florida making songs like Bust it Baby making hoodrats like Queen Pen and Superhead lust for him?

We got to wake up from that fantasy mindstate.
September 10, 2008 7:08 PM
 

DaKidHue said:

Thats why i dont know why yall knock them Soulja Boy type niggaz cuz all they doin is eatin ...aint they fault the industry is pushin that bullshit but since they are they mine as well cake up on it

they're mentality is fuck the art im gettin money (as most people's would be...includin me if i was in that position) but thats wats killin hip hop
September 10, 2008 7:09 PM
 

tanisha8 said:

Yes, the Hip Hop industry is a business. Haven't the labels benefitted from ill-informed talented new artists. The less research a rapper does before signing leaves him vulnerable to the corporate vultures. By the time he realizes he's been got, he doesn't have enough money for an attorney, let alone a bookkeeper. Just my 2 cents.
September 10, 2008 7:10 PM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

DAM THAS GAME THAS HELLA REAL EVEN IN THA BAY AREA CALIFORNIA LABELS WERNT PAYIN NO ATTENTION TO US SO WE SOLD OUT THA TRUNKS ON THE CORNA N INFRONT OF RECORD STORES. GOIN GOLD OUT THE 4 DO Y ADIG. HIT THE RADIO STATIONS PERSONALLY DROPPIN OUT MATERIAL. tHAS WHY THE JIVE DEAL E-40 GOT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOMENTS IN RAP HISTORY THEN MASTER P SCORED HIS DEAL AND THE REST IS HISTORY. COP THAT OLD SKOO "RHYME AND REASON" DVD IT SHOWS HOW RAP LEFT THE STREETS AND BECAME CORPORATE.

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September 10, 2008 7:55 PM
 

PreciseChi said:

The statement about Lyor was extremely telling...Wendy I really do appreciate your candor. No punches pulled (sports analogy)...lol


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September 10, 2008 8:23 PM
 

T-ROC said:

I just got to say after Wendy said all of that...here go this dude^^^^^^^sending her his DEMO.....LMAO @ that!!!

But, on to the business at hand. She killed real knowledge.ssshhhhitttt she schooled me. I wouldn't even front. It is just beyond me how a person can sign a record deal and not be interested in where his/her money is coming or going! Educated or not!
But, like Wendy said LEARN about your subject matter. You wouldnt go take a test without studying.

*I will have to put this article in my archives box.*

September 10, 2008 8:59 PM
 

TimeBomb4ya said:

So true...

Much respect!
September 10, 2008 9:30 PM
 

J-Tigga said:

Good read. Get 2 these knuckleheads, all these wannabe rap stars. Let em know that its work.
September 10, 2008 9:57 PM
 

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September 10, 2008 10:49 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:

anyone of you that has the audacity to diss wendy day or anything she has decided to share is a straight up bitch.she has tremendous real life knowledge about this game & has been involved with several major deals.she also has many mons of experience in what she's referring to.shes been down..not that I am in the position to validate her,but if I was,I would.for those that have hit me about my comments,in a positive fashion,take heed to wendy day's game..
September 10, 2008 11:51 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

Ouch, that truth comin out
Shame on me for even thinking to send a cd to a label. LOL

GOTTA STAND OUT BRINK!

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September 11, 2008 12:19 AM
 

bigchief206 said:

hip-hop is still a culture. get with the underground. don't believe these mainstream corporate clowns when they say all this "hip-hop is dead" shit. hip-hop can't die! look who's saying that bull shit? corporate clowns on labels responsible for the industrialization of our music. even nas talks shit about fox but his parent company is universal. one of the seven biggest corporations on the planet just as evil as fox. ice cube is the only real man in hip-hop everyone else is owned. even jigga. owned! someone else signs his checks and distributes his material. 150 million dollars can't buy your soul and most of these fucking cats need to realize that.

but it is as simple as picking up a pen and a mic. you say you love hip-hop you're sorry about the industrialization well this article is cool for the cats in the hood who are looking for an alternative to dealing or pimping or stealing or even working at mcdonalds or ralphs but hip-hop is love and i may be naive but it will never die it hasn't. you can still go to break battles i see graph everywhere, i hear cyphers or join cyphers all the time. dope ass djays spinning the hottest shit still battling and not on this cd mixer or mp3 bull shit. hip-hop ain't dead. that mainstream radio shit that people worship and that prop up this site didn't kill hip-hop it simply isn't hip-hop it isn't rap. it's business. the business of making music. i refuse to associate some of these clowns and the white business men who suborn and get rich as fuck off this trash.

i saw a guy wearing a shirt saying "music is the new cotton." i tend to agree with that and if you know the industry i think you would too. just a tip for these artists looking for a big deal. just make sure you recoup your advance and don't buy a chain with it. our people in africa are dying for that ugly ass thing you put around your neck. stay in the hood put that advance in a high interests savings account or invest in a chain of fat burgers  or buy some stock in google and call it a fucking day. man we gotta stop trying to make up for 400 years in one check. shits getting ridiculous! the materialism is insane.
September 11, 2008 1:16 AM
 

era_ABSOLUT said:

such truth about the death of the art in the 90's
teach it and preach it
kids my age are so blinded nowadays
art doesn't click in their minds
what clicks is money and power
the poisons of this world

R.I.P Hip Hop ninteen seventy something to 1999

but theres still artists out there who try
big ups to nas, lupe, common, immortal tech, and all those who im just to tired to give a mention
September 11, 2008 1:40 AM
 

Distrakt said:

Wendy,
Thank you for the advice back in the day.

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If you like normal today rappers, you’ll hate me.
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September 11, 2008 2:03 AM
 

the sphinx said:

thank u wendy.sounds like i was blind but now i see.thanks again.peace!
September 11, 2008 4:04 AM
 

the sphinx said:

thank u wendy.sounds like i was blind but now i see.thanks again.peace!
September 11, 2008 4:04 AM
 

Katalyst said:

Its really funny because its a 100 ways to get in the industry and no one really has a protocol for that.
I will give Wendy cred for telling the reader
"An artist, or a city, has to create its own movement to attract the industry." Thats the gospel!
But at the end of the day you will eventually have to learn the Industry through a crash course or an entertainment attorney.
It all boils down to love for your craft/culture, and timing.
See what most people fail to realize is the knowledge of the business can get you to the market but it cant keep you their. What will and what does keep people in the industry is love for the game. Look at all the so called retired artist who keep comin back to the scene after announcing just 6 months prior that they were retiring.
So without being to deep and philosophical its my understanding that the old adage "when the student is ready the master will appear" also applies to the rap game.
When you love something and you become what you think about on a day to day moment to moment basis, there is nothing on this earth that can keep you from it.
Bottom line is keep doin you and if you stay true to that one day, maybe even today you will be disc covered.
One    


September 11, 2008 10:11 AM
 

DAMN IM BROKE said:

SAY, EVERYBODY ON HERE: IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH LOCAL RAPPERS TOO? IM FROM DALLAS TX AND MY CITY HAS TOOOOOOOOOO MANY UP AND COMING NIGGAS WITH LABELS WHO SWEAR TO GOD THAT THEY ARE THE COLDEST NIGGA IN THE GAME. NOW IM NOT TALKIN' BOUT OUR LIL' WILLS, BIG TUCKS, BIG CHIEFS, MONEY WATERS OR ANY OF OUR OTHER LOCAL ARTIST THAT ACTUALLY HAS TALENT BUT I MEAN THESE NIGGAS WHO WOKE UP AND PICKED UP A MIC TO SAY THEY ARE OFFICIAL. NIGGAS IS QUITTIN' SCHOOL, NIGGAS IS WORKIN' AT THE CAR WASH AND EVEN SOME POLICE OFFICERS I'VE MET ARE BEGINNIN' TO THINK THAT THE RAP INDUSTRY IS JUST WHAT THAT IS. IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH THAT BACKYARD BARBEQUE BULLSHIT??
September 11, 2008 10:14 AM
 

Duckman XL said:

^^^^read my previous post. A lot of black people just want to live the life of Magic Don Juan (and he's broke, btw) and drive that new Caddillac or Benz while making it rain on strippers every night. Get-rich-quick is impossible these days and most people would rather sell pills or donate sperm at their local hospitals than working on a degree or a trade.
September 11, 2008 10:40 AM
 

DAMN IM BROKE said:

@Duckman XL
MY NIGGA, U AINT NEVA' LIED. NIGGAS ARE ENDORSING HOOD RAT HOES LIKE THEY THE SHIT AND BUYING GUADY JEWELRLY LIKE ITS GOIN' OUTTA STYLE. NOBODY WILL EVER COME UP OFF A GET RICH QUICK SCHEME. NOW IM NOT SAYIN' U SHOULD'NT TRY TO LIVE YOUR DREAM BUT IF U WANNA RAP THEN DO THAT IF U LOVE HIP HOP. JUST DONT DO THE SHIT BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THAT "I MAKE $10 A RECORD" BULLSHIT AND U BELIEVE THESE NIGGA'S LUXURY VEHICLES ARE REALLY THEIRS. THE ONLY NIGGAS MAKING REAL MONEY OFF OF RAP ARE THE NIGGAS WHO ARE DOING SHIT OUTSIDE OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY
September 11, 2008 10:56 AM
 

Duckman XL said:

^^the main rpblem is that those same people STILL believe Jim Jones or Camron or Plies thinking that they can be milti millionaires selling CDs off of their trunks and making shows in the hood LOL. Why else would you see a 47 year old(!) rapper from Philly talking about moving weight and making money off of bootlegged CDs? You middle aged and you still hoping to make it big in rapping?

September 11, 2008 11:04 AM
 

n.e.n.o.s. said:

rap game is the new crack game.
September 11, 2008 11:14 AM
 

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September 11, 2008 12:01 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

Wassup Wendy, another good article. Rap music definitely is a business. Like Pop it has been constructed to be a disposable business for "artists" as well. The executives want the money to keep flowing but they want to dump acts and make new ones. The whole idea of starting a label is to basically run a business. Music is not my primary business, it really was a hobby that kinda sorta started attracting the attention of certain people so me being the capitalist that I am I was like I am not going to let someone else profit off of my material at my expense.

Hopefully as artist and business owners you understand publishing (which can be complicated) and the different types of partnerships you will enter in with a major or subsidiary label to market and distribute your product.

The main thing a lot of rappers seem to misunderstand is that it takes money to make money. Good counsel is priceless in the music business and you will have to PAY people for their services. You won't get everything for free. Don't act like you know everything because it is more of WHO you know than WHAT you know. To really launch your career (if you want to call it that a lot of cats are not looking for a career) you have to have a certain amount of working capital to get started.  

More importantly concentrate on making good art first. Make good art and then transform that art into a product (this is highly subjective I was in the club last night with my youngins one of them was celebrating his birthday and they asked me to party with them so I was like kool I looked at it like research to see what the youngins were doing in the club and they were going crazy off Shorty Lo they wasn't really feeling Jigga. They respect Jigga, but his music is not that loud synthy bass shit they like to shake their dreads to these days. lol I left the club rockin M.A.D.E. and some young chics was like who's that that shit is knockin, it was SCARFACE. They didn't even recognize Face by voice man. lol Now I'll keep my opinion about Shorty Lo to my self since I will be going way off topic).

It doesn't have to be perfect but rap is very generational. Make a good fucking product. A lot of up and coming artists and producers hit me and ask me what I use and all the time. How are you supposed to be a producer and you don't know your own tools?

No I don't use PRO TOOLS, I fucking hate PRO TOOLS. I don't use Fruity Loops. See what I mean? Everybody uses Pro Tools but I don't because I didn't like it when I tried it. I have been to studios where cats have set-ups that they don't even need. These cats might use 1/10th of the entire set up the rest is there to make the studio look "sophisticated". They spend all this money just because they heard such and such bought the same system for their studio. Aiight I'm ghost you cats be easy.
September 11, 2008 12:36 PM
 

Way2Kool said:

Cedric Muhammad: You have been working with artists, managers, lawyers, record labels and attorneys over the last decade. Who, in your opinion is the most powerful of these 5 groups? Why?

Wendy Day: Best question I've ever been asked. There are 2 types of power in the urban music industry: perceived power and real power. Record labels hold the perception of power because it's financial (which is also fleeting). Def Jam and Universal are perfect current examples of this. No Limit and Cash Money are recent examples of this. When the label is hot, they can do no wrong. Every artist wants to sign to them, every fan wants to buy the product with their logo on it. But when the trend takes a turn or shift, their success goes downhill pretty quickly and even the addition of a major artist (like Snoop, in the case of No LImit) can't revive it. Along comes another hot label to fill the spot (or spotlight). Artists hold the real power because they make the actual commodity: the music. All of the imaging and promotional dollars in the world can't make a wack artist seem talented for very long.But a truly talented artist will eventually sell millions of units without multi-million dollar budgets. Perfect examples of this are Jill Scott, Les Nubians (who aren't even singing in English), and Nelly (early on). Artists, much like people of color, have been convinced for so long that they have no power, they begin to believe it. Artists therefore become psychologically burdened and dependent upon the label for financial support, so much so that they have lost the ability to recognize their power. In corporate Amerikkka this phenomenon is referred to as "golden handcuffs." You pay an employee a salary higher than they think they can obtain elsewhere, and that employee becomes controlled by the fear of losing the job (and the money and lifestyle that come along with it). This is especially the case with urban artists, many of whom traditionally come from poorer backgrounds, convinced they've finally obtained the "American dream." But it's fleeting; it only lasts until they are no longer of use to the label and are then coldly discarded. This happens the second sales start to take a dive and the label doesn't think the sales can be revived (Milli Vanilli is perfect example of a label controlled creation that went quickly to hell in pop music). Provided the artist doesn't succumb to this controlling mentality, they get to steer their own careers, and as long as the artist has real talent and some business sense (or really good advisors) they will create a career where they control ownership of their image, their music, their lives, and businesses outside of the music industry to sustain them. Stevie Wonder is a good example of this, as is Sean "Puffy" Combs. I always give my artists this scenario: an artist with no label can make one tape at home and sell it to someone for $10. But a label with no artist can't make any tapes (therefore no commerce). That right there tells you where the real power is. Some artists are strong enough to keep that power and not succumb to the mental destruction of perceived power.
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The above qoute is from a Q&A she did back in 2000.  Wendy always drops knowledge about the music industry, too bad a lot of these rappers ain't self-educating themselves about the shady ways of the business.  She should start having seminars for aspiring musicians trying to break into the industry.  
September 11, 2008 12:41 PM
 

JSG said:

Go 'head, Wendy... SPIT THAT GAME, madame...

Luvva J, In A Real Way!
September 11, 2008 12:55 PM
 

madfaceinvasion said:

This article makes me question the growth of technology. Is it hurting us or helping us?
September 11, 2008 1:49 PM
 

TheOuncemaniak said:

*********If they don’t think it will lead to massive national sales, they leave as quickly as they came (see the Hyphy Movement in the Bay Area for proof of this phenomenon).**********


LOL
September 11, 2008 2:22 PM
 

EF Cuttin2.0 said:

Talk that shit ma!!!!!!!
September 11, 2008 7:44 PM
 

Jebron Lames said:

  DAMN IM BROKE said:
SAY, EVERYBODY ON HERE: IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH LOCAL RAPPERS TOO? IM FROM DALLAS TX AND MY CITY HAS TOOOOOOOOOO MANY UP AND COMING NIGGAS WITH LABELS WHO SWEAR TO GOD THAT THEY ARE THE COLDEST NIGGA IN THE GAME. NOW IM NOT TALKIN' BOUT OUR LIL' WILLS, BIG TUCKS, BIG CHIEFS, MONEY WATERS OR ANY OF OUR OTHER LOCAL ARTIST THAT ACTUALLY HAS TALENT BUT I MEAN THESE NIGGAS WHO WOKE UP AND PICKED UP A MIC TO SAY THEY ARE OFFICIAL. NIGGAS IS QUITTIN' SCHOOL, NIGGAS IS WORKIN' AT THE CAR WASH AND EVEN SOME POLICE OFFICERS I'VE MET ARE BEGINNIN' TO THINK THAT THE RAP INDUSTRY IS JUST WHAT THAT IS. IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH THAT BACKYARD BARBEQUE BULLSHIT??  

@ DAMN IM BROKE

My cousin lives in Dallas he was on Koch but they let him go some legal shit but the nigga has talent....but I see what your getting at....

It aint that niggas is lazy and only want the glam life....but it's more to life then college and a wife + 3 kids and working 9 to 5 until your 90 years old

I dont even like souljah boy but look how he came up just off his own buzz no A and R no other "hot rapper of the week" co-signing him..... no multi million dollar budget

we living in some rough times and this is all niggas have to get by on
September 11, 2008 9:31 PM
 

Jebron Lames said:

a tippy tippy wee whatever the fuck your screen name is your a faggot

you a grown ass nigga on a messageboard full of men.... advertising male anatomy...you uh bitch nigga i will cut your fucking neck faggot
September 11, 2008 9:40 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:

..and the hits keep right on rollin'..
September 11, 2008 10:08 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

I'd def. like to attend some seminars if she had them.

Long live Hip-Hop!!
September 12, 2008 7:37 AM
 

Mic Terror said:

PhuckDat- I remember the rap coalition at ascap! Do you remember 88Hip-hop at Houston and Broadway? Wendy put a lot of heads on and she definitely gave me a lot of knowledge! I hope she's doing well
September 12, 2008 10:20 AM
 

J. Black said:

Real talk your analogy with the Knicks is crazy similar to an internship I had at Bad Boy. The sooner people understand the business the sooner that they can get in on their own terms.  Thats the thing I think a lot of people do not understand.  If you are going to get in any business you want to get in on your own terms or at least be seen as a partner.  Too many people out here are begging and not enough people are earning or even attempting to earn a position of importance in the entertainment game.
September 12, 2008 3:49 PM
 

MARTDOGG17351 said:

Mannn....  Wendy's always spittin' the truth!!!  Straight up!  That'z a good read right there.  Go out and get your hustle on independently.  Press and slang your own CDs locally.  Perform at any local clubs that you possibly can.  Spam the net with that shit.  Bang on pots and pans and shit - just try to MAKE SOME NOISE!  Anyway, anyhow, anytime, anywhere!  "If you build it, they will come", like homeboy said in Field of Dreams.  Wendy been spittin' knowledge for our peepz since way back.  RAPCOINTELPRO.  Read up.
September 12, 2008 5:14 PM
 

DAMN IM BROKE said:

DAMN IM BROKE said:
SAY, EVERYBODY ON HERE: IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH LOCAL RAPPERS TOO? IM FROM DALLAS TX AND MY CITY HAS TOOOOOOOOOO MANY UP AND COMING NIGGAS WITH LABELS WHO SWEAR TO GOD THAT THEY ARE THE COLDEST NIGGA IN THE GAME. NOW IM NOT TALKIN' BOUT OUR LIL' WILLS, BIG TUCKS, BIG CHIEFS, MONEY WATERS OR ANY OF OUR OTHER LOCAL ARTIST THAT ACTUALLY HAS TALENT BUT I MEAN THESE NIGGAS WHO WOKE UP AND PICKED UP A MIC TO SAY THEY ARE OFFICIAL. NIGGAS IS QUITTIN' SCHOOL, NIGGAS IS WORKIN' AT THE CAR WASH AND EVEN SOME POLICE OFFICERS I'VE MET ARE BEGINNIN' TO THINK THAT THE RAP INDUSTRY IS JUST WHAT THAT IS. IS YOUR CITY POLLUTED WITH THAT BACKYARD BARBEQUE BULLSHIT??  

Jebron Lames said:

My cousin lives in Dallas he was on Koch but they let him go some legal shit but the nigga has talent....but I see what your getting at....

It aint that niggas is lazy and only want the glam life....but it's more to life then college and a wife + 3 kids and working 9 to 5 until your 90 years old

I dont even like souljah boy but look how he came up just off his own buzz no A and R no other "hot rapper of the week" co-signing him..... no multi million dollar budget

we living in some rough times and this is all niggas have to get by on


@ Jebron Lames
YEAH, I HEAR YOU MY NIGGA BUT THE PROBLEM IS U GOT NIGGAS DOIN' THE EXACT-SAME-SHIT AND THE MAJORITY OF THESE NIGGAS DO ONLY CARE ABOUT A "PIECE AND CHAIN", "CANDY SLAB" AND "YELLA BONES." I SEE ALOT OF NIGGAS OUT HERE TRYIN' TO RAP BUT DONT LAST AT ALL WHEN THEY SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO BECOME A RAPPER AND TO MAKE ATLEAST A LOCAL NAME FOR YOURSELF. THESE NIGGAS ARE ALWAYS HERE 2DAY AND GONE 2MORROW AND D-TOWN IS FLOODED WITH ALOT OF EM'. YEAH THE AMERICAN DREAM AIN'T FOR EVERYONE BUT IF U GETTIN' INTO THE RAP GAME BCUZ U DONT WANNA WORK AND U JUST WOKE UP AT THE AGE OF 21 AND PICKED UP A PEN, THEN U WONT LAST AT ALL. ITS TOO MANY OF US NIGGAS DOIN' THE SAME SHIT. EVEN I WAS ONCE GUILTY OF DOIN' ONE OF THESE REPETITIVE HUSTLES THAT SO MANY OF US DO SUCH AS
1. GOING TO COLLEGE......BUT TO MAKE YOUR MAJOR "BUSINESS MANAGEMENT" OR SOMETHIN' BUSINESS RELATED. U TALK TO THAT AVG YOUNG BLACK MALE WITH THIS MAJOR AND ASK HIM WHAT HIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE HE MIGHT REPLY "SHIT, I DONT KNOW BUT I WANNA OWN MY OWN BUSINESS."

2. GETTING INTO REAL ESTATE. IN 03-06 THE REAL ESTATE MARKET WAS FLOODED WIT NIGGAS AND WHITE FOLKS ALIKE TRYIN' TO GET RICH OFF REAL ESTATE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT SEEMED LIKE ALL MY HOMEBOYS GOAL IN LIFE WAS TO HUSTLE ENUFF MONEY TO INVEST IN "REAL ESTATE." EVEN SOME STILL THINK THIS WAY AS FUCKED UP AS THE GAME HAS GOTTEN.

EVEN WIT ALOT OF THESE CHICKS OUT HERE GOIN' TO SCHOOL TO DO THE SAME SHIT (NURSING) AND ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THE POTENTIAL ASPIRING RAPPER THEY ALL TRYIN' TO BE VIDEO HOES.

BUT WHO AM I TO TALK, I DONT KNOW ANY NEW WAYS OF GETTIN MONEY MY DAMN SELF NOWADAYS. DAMN IM BROKE
September 12, 2008 10:22 PM
 

DBISONE said:

Str8 up who gives a fuck....if you got your dream then go for it, whatever that may be. This knowledge is good to know for cats but if it is really your dream to do that, I'm saying put all your chips on it, grind and  push. All or nothing. Fuck a back up plan. Putting a if this doesnt work then I'll do this is bullshit. Dont add the ifs or maybes. A back up plan will make it easier for niggs to give up and fall back. And the ifs and maybes just throws salt on the game. Of course if you just naturally aint a risk taker then this wont work for you. Those are the peeps that stay in the box.





"I do not betray my dream.....nothing more"
September 12, 2008 11:58 PM
 

Rig said:

It's tough in da streez

Thank God This iz Not Heaven.


StayFree
September 13, 2008 2:50 PM
 

ThePharLepht said:

Ehhh.. Wendy is only partially right.. 99% of the talent that is trying to shop demos sound the same.. it is very easy to tell the difference between someone with real talent.. lets say the next Micheal Jordan and the guy who is the best player at your local park.. which goes to say that above all this is the Entertainment Industry.. and to be successful you have to be entertaining.. and if your raps sound like every other rapper before you and arent innovative and still entertaining and you dont try to reach out to the masses you never will.. It is more about connections than anything.. but.. Eminem was found at the rap olympics and snoop was found at a bachelor party.. people are discovered.. dont let Wendy detour your dreams.. your biggest enemy is yourself and what you are willing to do to find the ENTERTAINER in you.. bottom line!
September 13, 2008 11:04 PM
 

PsychopathBeats said:

Dats Sum Real Shit
September 13, 2008 11:18 PM
 

C.A.T.thasMe! said:

This was a solid article, thanks for your frankness Wendy.

People need to realise that they are told "stay away from industry X" instead of being given hope about it because in "industry X" hope can be nothing but hype. I think it's the people who hear "stay away from... 'cause it's too hard" and respond by saying "well fuck that, I'm gonna go get educated (personal education, not institutional education!) and work even harder then" that will be successful whatever they end up doing.

I think one of the most important thing if you are starting out is not to put all your eggs in one basket. Keep a part time job to keep eating, hustle on the side (there are plenty of ways to do this legally, use your imagination!), research and use whatever coupons, benefits, free/cheap services available to you and use your brain when buying material goods (don't buy a big tv if you could buy a kick ass computer that will have music and business software! Same for clothing) etc etc

The alternative is to get a safe, reliable full time job, switch off when you clock off and be an entertainment consumer rather than creator. And there ain't nothing wrong with that!

Peace all
September 14, 2008 7:33 PM
 

Da Teacha said:

Please tell Ms. Day that Hip Hop is indeed a cultural pattern! Why is she upset? At some point, all artists would like to support themselves by producing their art as a living. Why do people always viscerate Hip Hop artists for capitalizing on their work? American history is replete with examples of people of color not being compensated for their productivity--think slavery, early inventions, jazz, bebop, blues, rock-n-roll, etc! I agree that the money hogs have too much influence on rap music; however, they don't get to dictate the culture! Hip Hop culture like other fringe social patterns lives with its constituent members! We decide what comes and goes in terms of the cultural pattern called Hip Hop. Rap music--like country, pop, and r&b--is controlled by the whims of the market and those capitalists in control of the methods of production, that is, record labels, radio stations and tv outlets. Fortunately, they can never dictate the cultural patterns that produce rap musi
c. If they did, we'd never have heard NWA, Public Enemy, LL, Rakim, Wu-Tang, Jay-Z, TuPac, B.I.G., T.I., Ludacris, Outkast, Scareface, Nas, DJ Premier, Guru, K.R.S. O.N.E., Talib Kweli, Common, Kanye, etc, etc, etc...
Rap music--like any other commodity in a capitalist system--lives and dies with the law of supply and demand.
Hip Hop--like any other cultural pattern developed from marginalized groups--lives and dies with the people. Thankfully, the people are still alive and well! Without us, Lupe Fiasco would be working at UPS.
September 17, 2008 9:38 AM
 

hater hurter said:

do it because u love it. good read wendy.
September 19, 2008 2:44 PM
 

Topchoice_1 said:

to Duckman >>>> I agree with most...actually all of what you say about getting educated and not trying to always be rappers and have get rich quick schemes, but the reality is that black kids don't all of sudden wake up and "know better",....the truth is rappers, as negative as they can be, are the most positive and successful(so to speak) people that they see regualary...as long as white media controls black images, we'll forever be chasing those images we see the most

http://www.SouthernRapNews.com
September 24, 2008 2:00 AM
 

CESS said:

BigChris502 said:
Honestly.....I think that this article fucks up rap even further. Yea I do think the fact that she is actually trying to tell people to learn about the business is one thing BUT...Why not encourage people to rap or make music 4 the love of the music?  
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people who do it for the love need not be told to do so my man... it is what they naturally do already...
October 9, 2008 5:57 PM
 

milkman209 said:

that's why niggas gotta get a real job....like obama said "You are probably not that good a rapper. Maybe you are the next Lil Wayne, but probably not, in which case you need to stay in school"
November 13, 2008 3:45 AM
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